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Old 07-04-2008, 08:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: Gasoline & Fuel Cells

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Originally Posted by ElectricTroy
If gasoline-to-hydrogen-to-electricity-to-wheels is more efficient, than sure, go for it. But is there another possibility? I wonder if *their* design is more efficient than a diesel-electric hybrid?

I doubt it.

Diesel-electrics average 45-50% efficiency whereas *their* gasoline-hydrogen-electric design only averages 40%.
maybe...

maybe not....

When tested on the NEDC cycle (1580 kg vehicle) the Nuvera system showed a net total of ~54% efficiency.
http://www.nuvera.com/products/hdl82.php#f

No diesel , hybrid or not, have I seen tested that has been able to show as high as a ~54% efficiency on a driving cycle.

If you know of any please site the source.

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This idea still has allot of potential.

Combustion engines like diesel engines are thermodynamically limited to ~60% efficiency.

Fuel Cells are only thermodynamically limited to ~83% efficiency.

Both system can benefit from a hybrid drive train.

The Fuel cell having fewer moving parts will require less maintenance.

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As already said the better system is the pure EV which eliminates the losses of making the hydrogen.... but if you need a transition system to Hydrogen... I think this is a good way to do it.
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