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I'm confused, I thought it was just a warranty extension, meaning that IF there developed a problem it would be replaced for free from HONDA. You make it sound like with or without a check engine light, you could just take your car in, and get the electronics and battery replaced as long as it was under 150,000? Which way is it?
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There was a letter that came in the mail that offered the IMA firmware update that said that it might prolong your pack life. I have that update in my car, I'd rather not have it because after discussing the differences with how the pack behaves between my newer revision and their older one, I would rather have the older one. I'd rather be able to use my entire packs state of charge range rather than have it charge up to 18 bars with a hidden charge every time I hop on the highway. I drive on the highway for pretty much every trip and this knocks me out of lean-burn. So basically I avoid using the battery as much as I can and regen to stay 18 bars as much as I can to avoid this hidden charge that kills my MPG. I've considered that if I weren't heading in the direction of MIMA that I would pull the pack to save the headache of trying to keep the pack nearly completely full all the time. I'd rather use some of it accelerating and then replenish it when I have real chances at useful regen, instead sometimes I end up hitting 20 bars and losing regen when I'm slowing down for an unexpected light on the highway when going 65 and lose all of that kinetic energy through friction. I can't imagine how bad keeping in the top miniscule percentage of the pack can possibly be better for my battery so I make sure that every month or so I run the pack down and charge it back up to hopefully keep the batteries active. If I don't drive on the highway or any constant speed for more than about 5 minutes, I never get this hidden charge and can hang in the middle, it's much nicer there but not for long as it tries to force charge again.
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This is super awesome news, i thought it rendered the car useless until you got the IMA batt pack fixed. I'm aware that with only 67hp the car will be a dog, i use to own a CRX HF and that was a dog as well.
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The Honda Civic Hybrid, Insight 2, Accord Hybrid(I think), have their BCM and MCM as one unit and it all shuts down at once, since the MCM is needed to charge the 12 volt battery, you basically lose what would normally function as the alternator. So if you've got a decent condition 12 volt battery, you can probably get home with the headlights, radio, and blower turned off if your drive is under 30 minutes or so.
The Toyota Prius on the other hand uses the high voltage pack to move the car, reverse the car, and start the car. It is dead in the water without its pack. I'm not sure about the Ford or GM hybrids though.
I don't consider 70 horsepower, or whatever it really is 67 to be a dog at all. Hanging in the lower gears and letting it rev up a bit leaves decent performance, it's not a sports car after all. Also keep in mind that the car is only 1800 pounds, it's 500 pounds lighter than pretty much any subcompact or compact car sold right now which makes a pretty big difference. Due to the design of the IMA motor in the car, it isn't the torquiest engine but it catches up with itself around about 3,000 rpm.
