2 5-speeds for sale / both 1 owner/ clean carfaxes / silver 138k / citrus 78k

[Eli]

Not to poopoo the car in the slightest, it looks very nice, but 20 bars means nothing as far as the battery is concerned. I could take a pic of the SoC gauge at 20 bars..with the battery that throws IMA lights left and right.

Just don't want potential buyers, new owners or random people reading the thread to be confused or get the wrong idea.

[chris22104]

Silver 02 is sold. Citrus is next. 78k original miles. CA car. No repaint. You can eat off the underside of this car. With grid charger. Needs nothing at all. New tires, redone rims, perfect rug and interior. Cold a/c, etc, etc.

[chris22104]

Another option; I have my daily driver 00 5-speed in silver from FL. Again one owner, clean carfax. 87k miles. Never any accidents or repaint. I bought the car with 46k miles on it and have averaged a lifetime 69 mpg on it. I just put 4 brand new re92's on it 3 weeks ago. It is perfect and doesn't need anything. I'd sell it for $8995, and could drive it to you, if you're a couple hundred miles. Clean and clear NYS title in hand (in my name.)

[chris22104]

This car charges up to the full 177 volts also, so the batteries are top notch (it actually will go higher, but 177 is where you want to draw the line, (according to Mike Dombrowski.) If any of the cells weren't in good condition, the pack wouldn't peak that high. I have installed grid chargers on all 3 of my Insights, (including the 2000 with 87k miles I just added for sale.) All are kept in my heated garage, and charged up and equalized regularly. All 3 of these 5-speeds I have for sale will charge to the full 177 volts, no problem, every time.

Originally Posted by Eli

Not to poopoo the car in the slightest, it looks very nice, but 20 bars means nothing as far as the battery is concerned. I could take a pic of the SoC gauge at 20 bars..with the battery that throws IMA lights left and right.

Just don't want potential buyers, new owners or random people reading the thread to be confused or get the wrong idea.

[chris22104]

Bump on my silver 2000 5-speed with 87k miles; one owner from Clearwater FL (with or without my full MIMA system and FAS (currently installed,) and my Citrus 2000 78k from CA. Clean carfaxes, no repaint, no dents, etc. etc. read above!

[Eli]

Sigh.. lol.

Sorry, but that is incorrect. A weak pack will climb higher in voltage while under charge than a strong one. I am not saying that your packs are weak, but there are way too many variables to make blanket statements like that. For example, a pack that is in any condition at 80+ degrees will never hit 177V while under 350mA of charge.

The only way to know true pack health is to log charge and discharge data. The car is almost sinister in the way that it hides pack problems until the IMA light pops on.

No IMA light with a weak pack is the same as no IMA light with a strong pack as far as a potential buyer is concerned. It is unfortunate. We might be able to change that eventually.....

Bottom line is that the SoC meter and voltage alone tell you absolutely nothing about the pack.

[chris22104]

I can tell you and any potential buyers this:

1. I've never had any problems with IMA lights or charging and discharging properly.
2. Both cars have the grid chargers installed on them, and I use them regularly, charging them up to 177 volts.
3. Both cars are kept in a climate controlled (65 degree) garage, and are not left out in the cold (citrus not driven in the snow ever.)

For what it's worth......

[jeff652]

I really want the green one, but alas, my wife would kill me. Lucky duck whoever gets that one!