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Old 08-11-2008, 03:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2000 5spd w/75k My check engine light came on. Honda replaced the computer. Then Honda and
I replaced the 02 sensor.
Now the assist kicks in much more frequently, the batteries never charge all
the way, and mileage has gone from 65 to 47. Ideas??



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Old 08-11-2008, 09:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Alter the way you drive to compensate for the change to the car....

or get MIMA discussed here:
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Old 08-11-2008, 09:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That drop sounds excessive. I would take it back to the shop and have them double check their work.
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Old 08-11-2008, 03:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't know the solution, but you are not the first that has posted this mpg drop after new computer.
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Have you checked the air pressure in your tires as the dealer may have dropped the psi. This would not account for such a drastic drop but it may be a place to start.
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Have they performed the proper reset procedure, in the correct sequence, for the BCM?

This problem was first mentioned in IC 5 or 6 years ago, the cars were leaving the service bay with the computer "lost in space". If so, take it back and insist they refer to the workshop manual

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It is possible that the new ecm just needs to "relearn". After a reset, it defaults back to base programing-after some driving items like timing etc will change and the mpg will improve.
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Same problem here. New ECM seems to bring on a more agressive assist, and a more sluggish recharge. I also cannot get more than 19 bars on my SOC battery indicator.

One thing I will try later on this afternoon is a manual recal, by disconnecting the battery. I will be driving about 200 mailes afterward, so I will report my observations afterwards.
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Same problem here. New ECM seems to bring on a more agressive assist, and a more sluggish recharge. I also cannot get more than 19 bars on my SOC battery indicator.

One thing I will try later on this afternoon is a manual recal, by disconnecting the battery. I will be driving about 200 mailes afterward, so I will report my observations afterwards.
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Old 03-18-2009, 04:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have a similar problem. I took the car in after receiving a notice from Honda for the ECM replacement. Our mileage on our 2001 5sp Insight was about 55mpg average (down from 60mpg a year ago). I had them adjust the valves at the same time. Car now is @ 51mpg over the ~70 miles since the service. We're seeing same charging situation as described above (e.g. never fully charges, aggressive use of IMA). Overall, the car feels slower, struggles when starting from a dead stop, etc.

I haven't seen anyone post a resolution/cause for this yet. Any help is appreciated.

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