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Old 10-30-2005, 10:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Anyone else seen this sign?

You'd have to live in SoCal to have seen this one.......

Two friends have reported seeing on Old Topanga Road a sign that reads "Rememeber when your Hummer was cool?"

I've been thinking about a new custom license plate frame for some time now and this sign has ended my search. Nobody has ever gotten the "Look Ma no cords" frame on the car now anyway.

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Old 10-31-2005, 01:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That would make a good one.

The only Hummer that ever was cool anyway was the original, and there aren't that many of those on the road. The H2 and H3's are just expensive wannabe's.
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I haven't seen it, but its what I would expect from the "Land the Sixties Forgot"
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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"he only Hummer that ever was cool..."

The Hummer never was cool. Not even the military version...
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I agree with Devin the only Hummer that was even close to being cool was the orginal H1 type but only if you kept it at a farm or deer lease. They are simply too big to drive on the street. When I have seen them around here the drivers have a hard time keeping them in their lane because they are about as wide as the lane is. Has anyone seen a socker mom dropping the kids off anywhere ever in a H1.? I haven't I have never even seen a woman behind the wheel of one.
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The Hummer never was cool. Not even the military version...
We have a difference of opinion. The H1 has a host of capabilities that make it as unique and interesting a vehicle as our Insights. Most relate to off-road performance however. I'd love to drive one for a day.

Quoting from http://www.autointell.com:
Where does one start in describing H1’s off-road superiority? How about its 16-inch vertical ground clearance—almost double that of any other 4x4. Let’s not overlook H1’s dramatic approach and departure angles of 72 degrees and 37.5 degrees, respectively, or the 17-inch aluminum wheels shod with 37-inch tires. You may never encounter it, but there’s a degree of comfort in knowing this vehicle can ford a 30-inch deep body of water.

Not to mention 440 lb.-ft. of torque at 1800 rpm. (Insert Tim Taylor grunt here)
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I pesonally agree that the H1 is pretty cool, but even if I could afford one (and the gas to keep it going) I don't know that I would actually buy one. Unless I had first bought 500 acres of mountanous timberland somewhere in the rockies that I needed to manage.

The thing to remember about the H1 is that it was primarily designed for military use, i.e. it is OVER-engineered for practically anything a private owner would throw at it. But that also means that it was designed to be maintained as a military fleet vehicle where servicing costs are kept low by using military mechanics! Imagine what a private owner would pay in maintenance costs for an H1 above and beyond the gas bill!

All that being said, the H2 is a joke, built on a bastardized Yukon chassis and boasting NO improvement in offroad capability over the Yukon, while inflating the price by $20,000US.

I must admit though that I am marginally interested in the H3. I have had a '94 4runner for some time and I really like having a mid-size SUV, but I imagine that when I get a good look at an H3 I will still find it too large for my tastes. If they ever build an H4 (maybe slightly larger than a Jeep Cherokee? hybrid?) I might be interested...

But, don't get me wrong, I hope to never have an SUV as a 'daily driver' again.
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"The H1 has a host of capabilities that make it as unique and interesting a vehicle as our Insights."

Yeah, right. Like the considerable logistics train needed to support just the fuel needs. Like its unparalleled ability to get stuck in narrow village streets. Like not having anything in the way of armor...

"I have never even seen a woman behind the wheel of one..."

My neighbor (inherited money) up the road has two. As I've sometimes remarked, it's his poor wife I feel sorry for
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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As far as modern military light infantry vehicles go, the H1 actually gets rather good gas milage! When you consider the fact that most modern militaries now almost exclusively use light armored APCs of some kind rather than jeep/truck type vehicles.

But I won't argue about the lack of armor, the inital versions of H1 military vehicles were sorely deficient in that regard. The vast majority of H1's currently in service have been retrofitted with some kind of light armor but AM-General really dropped the ball not including some kind of standard armor availabilty with the original military production model.

I also won't argue with you about the H1 probably being a terrible 'daily driver'. in the realm of privately owned vehicles it is about the worst choice possible unless you are TRYING to spend as much money as as you can.

Essentially all I am trying to say is this: As a military vehicle with all the military support entailed in using an H1 as such, it is/was actually a VERY good investment for the US military and most other militaries that use it (although it has a few obvious deficiencies=armor), but for the role that it was initially designed for it performs extremely well.
As a privately owned vehicle it should only be for those who TRULY need something with its capabilites (which would be EXTREMELY few), while in fact it has become a status symbol for those who have more money than brains. In my opinion the average H1 owner is probably stupid for buying one, even more so if they use it as a 'daily driver'. But you must remember that when it was first designed the private owner was not a consideration. Don't blame AM-Gereral for building it, blame the suburban jackass who thinks he can justify owning it when he will probably never even take it off-road.
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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There are MANY things about the H1 that are cool. Its quite a rare vehicle, and like the insight its purpose built. Its just not built for the same purpose! Its not a wanna be or pretender like the h2 or many other SUV's. Its capable of doing things offroad that destroy almost all traditional SUVs. Its a gas sucker, but it was never designed to be put in the hands of everyone like the traditional SUV.

I would LOVE to have one, but like many other things I really dont NEED it. One nice trick, an H1 with a diesel engine could run on biodiesel of course. Sounds at least interesting!
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