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Old 07-09-2007, 02:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The clutch switch is a good idea if you have a 5 speed and if it works. Apparently some of the newer 5 speed Insights don't accept this mod.

I have pulled some assinine trailer loads in my distant past, like an upright piano with a cast iron frame 250 miles at night on back roads in a converted lightweight boat trailer with a small engine Honda. I survived a blown tire and didn't destroy the car, but that didn't mean it was a sane idea.

Pulling any trailer requires a more professional driving attitude, but if you feel it is worth the risk and effort, just be sure to do it right and drive conservatively.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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"But as long as the trailer is attached its analogous to driving up hill both ways (continously)."

That depends on how long your "both ways" is going to be. In my case, it can be about 70 miles of pretty constant uphill, from near sea level to about 8500 ft. I do most of it in 3rd - the Insight is perfectly happy in that gear at freeway speeds.

So if you're going to be pulling a light trailer with a MT, just downshift But the key word here is light. Honda, like most if not all automakers, puts a lot of things in its user manual for defensive reasons. When they say no trailers, they're aiming at the sort of person who'd try to tow a power boat or 30-foot camping trailer, then claim warranty repairs.

People need to use a little common sense. If the draw weight of the trailer is low enough that it can be towed behind a bike, you're probably going to be putting less load on the engine than you would putting the canoe on a roof rack, since that'd create mucho aerodynamic drag while a trailer would be in the Insight's wake.

Personally, the only thing that stops me from getting one for my sailboard and the kayak I wish I had is that I just haven't had time for sailboarding or kayaking lately

"You should install a clutch switch, this will disable IMA on hill climbs..."

Actually I should just get my MIMA install finished. Haven't had time for that, either, though maybe sometime this month.
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Well, the canoe only weighs about 60 pounds and even if it were in-front of the car probably has a better aerodynamic coefficient of drag than the car does. The trailer I'm hoping for shouldn't weigh more than 100 lbs or so. In reality it should not present any appreciable additional load on the engine and may even help smooth-out what little slipstream the Insight creates. An extended tail so-to-speak. It's a 5-spd by the way.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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160 pounds sounds quite reasonable to me, a lightweight efficient car pulling a lightweight efficient watercraft.
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