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Old 01-13-2011, 01:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was looking into getting a first gen insight, however my reasoning for getting it will not be too see if I can get record mileage but just to buy a car that is fuel efficient. All of the threads I look at talk about their 70+mpg while driving 55mph with no AC etc. But for other insight drivers, what is a realistic mpg figure with driving mostly city, accelerating with traffic, traveling 5mph over or so (just flow with traffic) with the ac on pretty consistently etc?

Basically I would drive the car like I drive any car and just hope to get decent mpg. Highway driving would be mostly with CC engaged between 75-80mph and like I said with AC. I live in Miami, and I have done the no AC thing before for awhile, but its just not something I want to deal with just to save a little bit of money because unfortunately I am a sweater. So to reiterate, I would drive mostly city driving shorter distances, I live in miami so AC would be used 9+ months out of the year, I will accelerate and maintain speed with traffic (no hypermilling or anything of that sort), And when I do go on the highway I would have the cruise somewhere between 75-80mph.

Just wanted to see realistic mileage from owners that don't do anything differently then what they would do in any other car.

So Show me what you got!

Thanks guys!
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whenever I let someone else borrow my car, and they drive normally (A/C on, 70-75mph), they come back with the FCD showing around 50-55mpg.

Most insights you see for sale usually have a Lifetime MPG of around 50-60.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My actual MPG is right around 51 to 52 MPG but I am still driving around at 70 to 75 with ECON A/C on sometimes.

I've owned my Insight for less than a week but my lifetime mileage that is shown on my car is 44 MPG.
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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When I flew to Detroit to pick up the Insight, the Lifetime mileage was 55 mpg, with 77,000 miles on the clock.

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Old 01-13-2011, 01:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My 2001 Honda Insight lifetime is 52 MPG for 298,000 miles. I drive it like a car but more responsibly than when I first got it 9 years ago. I drove 75 miles an hour with the a/c on was 45 -48 MPG.
Now 55-70 mph, slow starts ands slow stops and long trips it is 58 MPG. I have not changed anything on it. I would like window film, cruse control, and the fancy scan gauges, MIMA's, grid chargers the long time tinkering owners have installed on their Insights.
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This is all good news. I was hoping that I could avg around 40 in the city while using the AC like I normally would and driving like I would normally drive. And from what everyone is saying so far that seems like it may be possible!

I don't care too much of highway, because Im sure it will get 40+ on the freeway for the most part and the only time I go on the highway is when I go to tampa from here in miami (290 miles) and thats maybe once every two months or so. In the winter time here, Im sure I would use the auto-stop feature and all of that more since I wouldn't be using the AC, and I dont have to use the heat too much down here usually. So winter mileage will probably go up for me !

I know there has to be more of us out there though that bought the insight just to drive it like normal.

Keep it coming.

Thanks so far.
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This is all good news. I was hoping that I could avg around 40 in the city while using the AC like I normally would and driving like I would normally drive. And from what everyone is saying so far that seems like it may be possible!

I don't care too much of highway, because Im sure it will get 40+ on the freeway for the most part and the only time I go on the highway is when I go to tampa from here in miami (290 miles) and thats maybe once every two months or so. In the winter time here, Im sure I would use the auto-stop feature and all of that more since I wouldn't be using the AC, and I dont have to use the heat too much down here usually. So winter mileage will probably go up for me !

I know there has to be more of us out there though that bought the insight just to drive it like normal.

Keep it coming.

Thanks so far.
You'd have to be a VERY poor driver to average less than 40 mpg on a 1st generation Insight.

I drive like you intend to. I do 73 mph on the interstates, and 63 mph on suburban and urban highways. In the city, I drive in a way that feels good, NOT lugging the engine to low revs just to get slightly better mileage. To me, the charm of this car is only partially good fuel mileage; I am actually much more excited about the idea of driving a car that is aluminum to an insane degree, consequently won't corrode out from under you, feels very nimble, is exquisitely and passioantely engineered, and is built to a high quality standard.

On interstate trips, I average 60 to 63 mpg over long distances (65 to 70 mpg on short segments) at 73 mph.

On subruban and urban highways, it's more like 57 to 60 mpg on 6 to 25 mile trips.

Around the city, 45 to 48 mpg showing when I fill up weekly, even when in really cold weather and idling the darn engine for 10 minutes while scraping ice off the windows (like right now on this assignment in Buffalo, NY!). If I ever got a week's average below 45, I'd ask what's broken.

All these are AC on, NOT shutting down the engine when stopped at lights, never letting the engine cruise below 1800 rpm, and shifting so that in the NEW gear, the rpm will be at LEAST 2000 rpm and more often 2300.

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You'd have to be a VERY poor driver to average less than 40 mpg on a 1st generation Insight.

I drive like you intend to. I do 73 mph on the interstates, and 63 mph on suburban and urban highways. In the city, I drive in a way that feels good, NOT lugging the engine to low revs just to get slightly better mileage. To me, the charm of this car is only partially good fuel mileage; I am actually much more excited about the idea of driving a car that is aluminum to an insane degree, consequently won't corrode out from under you, feels very nimble, is exquisitely and passioantely engineered, and is built to a high quality standard.

On interstate trips, I average 60 to 63 mpg over long distances (65 to 70 mpg on short segments) at 73 mph.

On subruban and urban highways, it's more like 57 to 60 mpg on 6 to 25 mile trips.

Around the city, 45 to 48 mpg showing when I fill up weekly, even when in really cold weather and idling the darn engine for 10 minutes while scraping ice off the windows (like right now on this assignment in Buffalo, NY!). If I ever got a week's average below 45, I'd ask what's broken.

All these are AC on, NOT shutting down the engine when stopped at lights, never letting the engine cruise below 1800 rpm, and shifting so that in the NEW gear, the rpm will be at LEAST 2000 rpm and more often 2300.

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GREAT to hear that! If I would really get 45mpg without even trying in the city that would be amazing. Talk about saving money!
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280,000+ miles and LMPG of 58.2, Driven in "sport" mode most of the time. Normally run in the 3K-3200 rpm range to keep the timeing advance for power. No heavy loading of the engine, brisk acceleration, cruiseing with the flow of traffic....and mountain driving.
But I can hypermile for entetainment.

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I've had my Gen 1, 2002 CVT for about 15 months. My lifetime is 53.5 which includes one winter. If you truly analyze the mileage, the worst case for these cars is the first 3 miles or 5 minutes in very cold weather. You'll get more benefit from never having a cold car than the detriment of running the AC. I get pretty much the same mileage as Jim G in midwinter. It's tough to hit 50 mpg on a winter tank when it takes 10 days to use up a tankful and at least 4 of those days will be snowy and require a warm up. I don't think Florida messes with the RFG or the 10% ethanol either. That sets me back a few mpg. I don't hypermile normally, flow of traffic is as fast or faster than your area. My best tanks last Spring were 58.1 and 59.9 actual. I was in Buffalo NY where flow of traffic averaged 10 mph lower.

My guess is you could get 50-57 all year with a CVT and if you can find an MT in good shape you could easily exceed 60 mpg all year, perhaps 70.

Good luck on your search, watch Craigslist, Ebay and this site. Your car will pop up!

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