My I-8 friend in San Diego

[kvomax79]

I did. For Artic's chargers, you only need to connect the positive and negative cables and the fan. You might be able to install it without taking the battery out.

[Eli]

You can install the piggyback spade terminal without removing the pack if you have small hands and feel comfortable working blindly next to HVDC. Using a screw like Mike does is much more reliable overall.

Once you have the IPU cover off, you're only 2 interior bodypanels and 8 bolts away from removing the pack. It's really not a big deal.

I wholeheartedly recommend purchasing one of Mike's grid chargers over one of the "dumb" chargers.

[Kenpo]

I'll see when it gets here, if I cant get to it then I'll pull the battery out. I dont think mike has that over night chargers in stock, and what makes it a "dumb" charger? If it works and does what its suppose to do thats all I really care about.

[Eli]

Yeah, true. Hopefully he makes another batch.

It's a "dumb" charger because the battery is an expensive piece of equipment, yet it has no monitoring capabilities, no safeties(besides a fuse), no feedback, etc. You're throwing charge at it blindly.

That said there's nothing really inherently wrong with the "dumb" chargers, but you become the monitor. I have a dumb charger. Believe me, it's much nicer being able to log a charge and know exactly what is going on, rather than babysitting the pack.

I am aware of the cost difference though, but it 's like anything else - you get what you pay for.

[Kenpo]

Oic, he is making them right now and I wanted the volt meter wired up so I can keep track of it. Its just too bad that mike doesnt have the overnight chargers in stock or I would have purchased one.