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Old 11-07-2012, 08:17 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Hyundai has gotten quite the reputation for "working" the EPA fuel economy tests well, while their cars never live up to their test results in the real world.

If you love your Veloster, that is one thing. But their certainly was no economy in the purchase you made.
CF-105 made a great point, in a nutshell: Hyundai is a good quality make. They never hit the numbers on the EPA sticker. I'd buy one over a midsize Chevy or Ford but I drive too many miles per year to tolerate the poor (mediocre at best) comparative gas mileage. Be forewarned and check the online reviews before you switch makes and models.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Don't settle for a cvt; you will miss lean burn too much.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I recently traded in my trusty 2001 CVT for a Prius C. The honda was showing signs that caused suspicion that a new battery was in my future. To that, I was ready for a new set of tires bringing my upcoming repair and maintenance costs to near $3500.

While the Prius C has some advantages (ride quality, noise), I don't get quite as good as mileage (close, though). Once the new-car smell has worn off, I continue to wonder whether I made a good decision. Certainly, the Prius C fails to match the insight in terms of coolness factor.

I certainly miss my insight and might do it differently if given a second chance.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:33 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm in the same Prius c boat now. I haven't pulled the trigger but I'm close. If I'm willing to do that I might as well get the 2006 cvt insight not far from my house. However, having owned a manual insight, I think if I were to try to find another I'd be better off getting a manual.

Chris has a nice citrus insight I may take, but I gotta do something with is damn veloster first. Not to mention the bank sort of frowns upon financing a 11k vehicle when nadaguides says its 5200ish. They just don't understand

One guy in the Prius chat forum summed it up nicely: once you've owned an insight, especially the manual, no car is ever good enough nor can it even come close to touching the magic of an insight.

Btw, what kind of mileage are you getting on your Prius C? You doing anything to hypermile the car or just driving as you did before?


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Old 11-09-2012, 01:53 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Btw, what kind of mileage are you getting on your Prius C? You doing anything to hypermile the car or just driving as you did before?
Like with my insight, I simply stay at speed limits and minimize braking. I also accelerate smartly...not too fast...not too slow...just right.

I find that, in optimum conditions for each, the insight is a more efficient car. The best milage on the insight is better than the best mileage on the prius. The insight is, simply, an inherently more efiicient car: lighter and more aerodynamic.

I have noticed a few ways that the prius might be a bit better from a mileage perspective. First, it appears that the designers took greater pains to ensure that the engine warmed up quicker. Second, I find the hybrid capability to be much more beneficial in city driving. On the prius, once warmed up, one does not have to work very hard to get better city MPG than highway. This was not true with my insight.

I suspect that, in the end, my lifetime MPG will be better on my insight than with the prius, but within a few percentage points.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:20 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You don't think you'll ultimately regret the Prius c do you? Love for the g1 insight aside. Like we said, no car is ever going to be good enough after the insight but that does not mean the Prius c sucks. I'm asking, not telling, since you have more drive time in the Prius than I.


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You don't think you'll ultimately regret the Prius c do you?
absolutely not!! While I may (or may not) regret selling the insight, and believe that the insight has SOME benefits over the Prius C, I also find the reverse to be true. The Prius rides nicer, handles better, is more quiet, can carry more stuff, and carry more people. My wife feels safer in it and is willing to drive it when necessary.

I remain confident that, of the cars currently available, that the Prius is the best replacement for the G1 insight for my purposes. If only volkswagen would bring in a diesel 'Up'.
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What kind of mpg's are you getting in the c?

And what did you used to get in the Insight?
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The other day I heard that Kia/Hyundai was being forced to payback money to owners of vehicles purchased over a certain set of years. (2007-12? can remember). They were found to have inflated their MPG estimates and owe the extra fuel costs to purchasers. Like I said, I don't know any details, just heard a quick news update on the radio. I am curious as to the actual protocol used to determine mpg numbers. I assumed the EPA did them so they were unbiased, fair, accurate, identically tested, and reproducible. Guess Im wrong.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:18 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I cant speak for the C, but I drove a prius 3 for 2 weeks or 2 thousand miles. WIth no mods driving it like a rental car netted me 50mpg, careful-er driving I managed 65mpg. With the fact it has a more progressive way to use regen braking before the pads kick in and the fact under ver lite acceleration you can nurse it in "EV" mode I am sure you can come close to what the older insight did. Of course its a steel vehicle with a lot of weight and seting for 5 too.
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