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Old 12-24-2012, 07:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Looks like a great way to tweek the frame.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That would be "Speed too fast for conditions" on the police report.

Can't say I've ever noticed the Insight was squirrely in the snow. Easy to get stuck in the right conditions, and those damn under body panels take a beating, but as far as stability I've never had an issue.

But more importantly, you have snow?! I'm wondering why I even stored the RX-7 for the winter.
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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That would be "Speed too fast for conditions" on the police report.

Can't say I've ever noticed the Insight was squirrely in the snow. Easy to get stuck in the right conditions, and those damn under body panels take a beating, but as far as stability I've never had an issue.

But more importantly, you have snow?! I'm wondering why I even stored the RX-7 for the winter.
Probably the first time that we've had snow and you didn't. We almost didn't get any here last year. Right now there's not much, but we should be getting more tomorrow. The day I crashed we probably only had 1" but out in the county there were 6-8" drifts.

I took a picture last night, it puts a wider footprint on snow than my GTR does:



I'm bringing it in for an alignment later this week, I'm going to see if I can space out the whole hub assembly easily for the winter.

And yeah, I'm sure I was going too fast for the conditions, but in deep snow the car seems to be all over the road even at 30km/h. Maybe the RE92's suck at snow.
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The Insight is very light, so the compression of the fresh snow is less than a heavier vehicle, so you end up with the "squirrel" feeling.
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You might put a bag of concrete in the back hatch area and see if that makes a difference. It works on pickup trucks.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:30 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Probably the first time that we've had snow and you didn't. We almost didn't get any here last year. Right now there's not much, but we should be getting more tomorrow. The day I crashed we probably only had 1" but out in the county there were 6-8" drifts.

I took a picture last night, it puts a wider footprint on snow than my GTR does:

I'm bringing it in for an alignment later this week, I'm going to see if I can space out the whole hub assembly easily for the winter.

And yeah, I'm sure I was going too fast for the conditions, but in deep snow the car seems to be all over the road even at 30km/h. Maybe the RE92's suck at snow.
What pressures are you running? Once there is a good bit of snow on the ground I drop back to 30 PSI and it helps immensely. At 55 PSI they will slice through slush and thin snow but anything more than an inch is a problem. The RE92s are indeed terrible snow tires.

We better damn well get some snow soon, unlike last year. I still have 20 litres of fuel left over for the snow blower and I don't expect that it will last another year of storage.
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The Insight is very light, so the compression of the fresh snow is less than a heavier vehicle, so you end up with the "squirrel" feeling.
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You might put a bag of concrete in the back hatch area and see if that makes a difference. It works on pickup trucks.
The bag of concrete would have the added benefit of slowing the Insight down significantly, which improves traction in its own right, lol!
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The RE92s suck in the snow even when they're brand new, forget it if they're worn.
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For winter tires i find X-Ice are nice. Mileage is down of course.

re: cement bag in insight rear: I wouldn't be adding weight to the back end of a fwd car; less polar momentum and maximum proportion of mass over the drive wheels would be better for traction and cornering. fwiw: I'd rather oversteer than understeer by preference. For that same reason and more in winter at least I don't mind the heavier higher capacity 12V PbA battery on board.
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