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Old 05-13-2010, 11:33 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I tend to keep my on Trip A and reset both trips when I visit the petrol station. But as far as the main screen that I use. I mostly keep it on the fuel consumption screen. Since getting my last trophy I see no need to see the leaves grow. I will from time to time check out the battery screen.
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I tend to leave that screen blank and just watch the assist/regen indicator and the blue/green one. I try to avoid using assist, I try to keeping it green and lift to regen every so often while on a trip.
That's an interesting idea I hadn't thought of - leaving it blank. Not exactly sure what you mean by "and lift to regen every so often." Do you mean let up off the accelerator? I try to stay in the green too but often find it impossible on long inclines in the L.A. mountains and hills that I must travel through. Any tips on keeping green on long uphill drives (without driving 50 mph)?

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Old 05-13-2010, 03:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I use Trip B insta milage... I reset for each trip. and record Trip A in my gas log.

Anyone know if can can set the default on MID so that is doesn't come up blank on the restart?
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Old 05-14-2010, 09:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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When I first got the car I used the energy flow screen to learn how the car used engine and battery (alone and together). I ignored all the blue/green stuff in the speedometer. I learned about the movements of the asst / regen gauge, various thuds and other little noises as the energy flow screen showed arrows going from battery to / from car and gas nozzle lighting up or going dark. I took particular note of when the gas nozzle is dark and arrow goes from battery to car (which I call "ev mode"). I also took note of when the nozzle was lit but there were no arrows moving to or from the battery and car (which I call "free wheeling" eg the battery neither slows or aides the rotation of the car's wheels).

Then in my travels around my hilly area I found steap and gentle downgrades that were great for ev mode and brake regen, as well as others which were best for free wheeling - gives more speed at bottom of hill which is great for climbing the immediately following upgrade.

So after putting all the above together: I currently use the asst / regen gauge, the MID on the instant mpg screen (what I call the "mpg slidder"), and various noises to guide my gas pedal pressure and driving style to get max. mpg. I periodicly briefly move over to the energy flow screen to check on the battery's state of charge.

Currently I have Trip A accumulating odometer and mpg since April (see manual about how to set it). I reset Trip B every morning to give me daily feedback about my driving style, effect of air temp., tire pressures, etc.
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I try to stay in the green too but often find it impossible on long inclines in the L.A. mountains and hills that I must travel through. Any tips on keeping green on long uphill drives (without driving 50 mph)?
I don't think there is a way. There are similar upgrades around here without all the traffic. I've tried several things, but nothing really works except lower speeds.

I turn econ off at bottom of hill, this will allow the battery to run down to a lower state of charge before auto regen kicks in. I ignore the colors and watch the tachometer, speedometer, and mpg slidder. Best mpg is 2000 rpm or less. Max torque is at 4200 rpm. Shifting the CVT to "S" gives higher rpm and more battery asst and regen. (I don't like running the engine over 3500 rpm for sustained periods ....but thats me.)
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energy flow screen until fuel low light and then range screen to zero miles.
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:38 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Not exactly sure what you mean by "and lift to regen every so often."
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I'm still a little confused by the instant mpg moving bar, above that is the number, and then there's the horizontal bars (0, 1, 2, 3) on the other screen.

The instant bar between 1-100 is instant mpg's right now, and the number above that on the same screen is the average mpg's on trip A or Trip B since the last reset, right? What are the 0, 1, 2, 3 horizontal bars for on the other screen? Is that the mpg's of the last driving cycle like from when the key was turned on to where it was turned off?

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.......What are the 0, 1, 2, 3 horizontal bars for on the other screen? Is that the mpg's of the last driving cycle like from when the key was turned on to where it was turned off?

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That is correct. Not exactly the same as what was reported at the last key turn, but close. I almost never use this screen.
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.....I try to stay in the green too but often find it impossible on long inclines in the L.A. mountains and hills that I must travel through. Any tips on keeping green on long uphill drives (without driving 50 mph)?
Here are some additional thoughts on this after thinking back to the long inclines of I-405 North from West Los Angeles through the (Hollywood?) hills to the 101 North / Ventura Fwy, and also I-? North from San Burnadino to Barstow.

Driving up these inclines with green in the speedo seems impossible from here on the hilly Oregon coast. But what is the best approach for max. mpg for any vehicle in going up these inclines? My guess is to approach these hills (with a full battery in the case of a hybird) at a high speed (say 80-85 mph). Allow the speed to very slowly and steadily decrease so that by the time you reach the top of the incline you are traveling at your lowest speed (say 50 mph). My guess is that the amount of gas used will be less than the amount of gas used if you approached the hill at 65 mph and maintained 65 mph all the way to the top.
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