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Old 02-11-2013, 07:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Quick question for Ehetleos and HybridNewGuy. Sorry if I missed you saying, but have either of you had the dealer software updates for IMA / CVT behaviour?
I do not think so...
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:36 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Sounds "normal" to me.

I have this behavior where I can ride the brakes to a stop, see the SOC climb to almost 100%, then go to accelerate and the meter dips into regen and the SOC goes from nearly full to a bar and recharges for a few minutes.

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The battery quickly went to recharge and gained all its charge in record time. As a matter of fact, it went to full charge many times so no complaints about that (of course the mountainous terrain played its role while traveling downhill).
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:10 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I do not think so...
Ok, some of the behaviour you're both describing sounds a little like my car before I had the updates done (for free at Honda main dealer).

It totally transformed my car's behaviour, especially first thing in the morning, uphill on cold days.

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Yeah, thats the new behavior that pisses me off I have discovered since I removed my phev kit. I can ride the brakes up an off ramp, to a stop, down a hill, etc. I can see my SOC climb to almost or 100% full. I go to step on the gas and the car feels like I have the parking brake up 5 clicks and I see the needle dip right into the regen area vs assist. Soon after the SOC screen empties to reveal a white box with a bar in the bottom of it.

I am awaiting to find someone to service my converter and a sure proof way to balance my lifepo4 cells before I put it back into service.
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I was told that my software is the most recent version. Nothing has changed regards to firmware and for the first 26,000 miles plus it did NOT do this. Something has changed. Is it a combination of events including weather that is bringing this out? I don't know. I do know one thing. Honda will fix my car. I will take this to whomever I have to if this is not resolved. Trust me.

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My Insight is at the dealer getting a new rear bumper skin painted and put on.

I asked them to check for software updates and to install them while they have it.

Should get car back tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing what all the rage is about.
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Yeah, thats the new behavior that pisses me off I have discovered since I removed my phev kit. I can ride the brakes up an off ramp, to a stop, down a hill, etc. I can see my SOC climb to almost or 100% full. I go to step on the gas and the car feels like I have the parking brake up 5 clicks and I see the needle dip right into the regen area vs assist. Soon after the SOC screen empties to reveal a white box with a bar in the bottom of it.

I am awaiting to find someone to service my converter and a sure proof way to balance my lifepo4 cells before I put it back into service.
Cobb, you have EXACTLY described what I am experiencing. New for 2013. Your battery should be under warranty. Have you had them check it?

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I dont think its a warranty issue. I think it still maybe related to the starter battery under the hood. I may end up replacing it with a deep cycle one if I can get to the Battery Barn during their business hours. I think a nf22 would be a nice fit unless they too offer a deep cycle 51.

Otherwise I drive her like my old mercedes 240d. I floor it, then lift as I reach my target speed. This way you dont get that shock when the extra 13 horses are out to lunch and another 7 are taken away to search for them.
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Cobb is sounds like you're saying the IMA system is trying to top off the 12v battery.

If that's the case, perhaps the normal, tiny battery has its own benefit. Small may be better. Hey it's all in how you use it, right?
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I got my best summer commuting tank mpg driving that way. Basically heavy footed under acceleration, feather footed cruise.

I think there's something to be said for short, sharp acceleration. Minimises the time spend at low mpg and limits the duration of the battery providng assist. My car seemed to go into regen less often that way.
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