Thanks for posting about the software update! I ended up taking my '10 insight in for the update by making an appointment and was advised it would be free. When I got there it was a different story.
I had to talk to a service coordinator who didn't know what I was talking about and after going back and forth with her and her talking to a service tech and coming back to me she said that since there was no bulletin she couldn't help me. Instead of fighting her I just asked do I just take it somewhere else and she had me talk to someone with her. This person knew what I was talking about and said she had to phrase it that I had concerns with fuel economy to check for the update. Once he said this they started the check.
Unfortunately my 3 years expired in Nov '12 and they said it would be charged as a service diagnostic. I ended up paying $128 for the 3 updates and a free car wash :S
Anyway, my initial reaction is the drive feels much better, will keep tracking my mileage to see what the increase in efficiency is for me.
Newbie here, just picked up my 2012 Insight a week ago, now going about learning what I can.
One of the first things I've noticed is that on my long hill climb in the last few miles before home every day, halfway up the hill it starts to show a charge cycle occurring with the charge needle deflecting half way down. I presume that's what you're referring to as a forced regen. Certainly doesn't make sense to have the engine work harder going up a steep hill at that point.
I would have thought that the software update that applies to the '09s and '10s here would be built in to a 12, but maybe it was developed after my '12 was built. Anybody know?
Thanks in advance, loving my I2, fun to drive. Coming off a Diesel smart that got killer mileage, but was getting on in miles and the roads here were just murdering it's non-suspension. That, and waiting for 10 miles to get warm enough in the winter was killing me.
The 2012 has the latest software in it. Regarding charging after pulling a hill for a while, there is a limited amount of assist available before the battery needs to recharge. Sounds pretty normal. @ adamd I got my software updated under warranty. As much as it improved my car, I'd have paid for it without hesitation.
I got my software updated under warranty. As much as it improved my car, I'd have paid for it without hesitation.
Thanks for sharing this. I'm still going back and forth about paying $100 to hook up the car to a computer. Seems absurd. Plus, what if I only find out I have a non-update-able car (I have one of the first I2s off the line). What to do
Vehicle operating systems have been updatable for quite a few years. I can't imagine yours couldn't be.
In all fairness, the charge is reasonable.
There is a pretty high equipment cost involved, plus costs from Honda to the dealership. Same for independents, they have to buy the diagnostic equipment and pay the subscription costs to use the factory tool. The person working on your car deserves to be paid. It is quite more than a 5 minute job. You'll forget about that cost pretty quickly considering how much improved you car will be. At least that how it worked out for me.
When I went to the dealership and they were not aware of the update. I told them that the update notification would appear once they connected the car to the computer. They informed me that the software update might have negative effects and that it was not reversible and that the software update might issue a check engine light. They also said that they would charge me ~$50 just to check. I was okay with that. After they applied software update there was a check engine light. They cleared the check engine light and drove it around without any issue. In the end, I was not charge for anything.
Remember, Honda got into deep do do (don't want to say shit as it's apparently a family site) because they did software updates on the Civic Hybrid without informing customers. That could account for the dealers being reluctant.
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