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Old 02-17-2017, 05:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I bought a pair of Matiz rear springs to fit on my 2000 MT car, but I waited until my GAZ shocks arrived before fitting them. Yesterday I had some time, so I went for it.

But they (the springs) don't fit. I eventually discovered that the springs I'd bought belonged with a later Matiz. Aiui the springs we need for our cars is the early type, as used on the 800 cc cars.

Here, in the hope that it may be helpful, are the data about the original Insight springs, the early Matiz springs and the late Matiz springs:

Insight rear springs:
Overall length: 287 mm (11.30")
Number of coils: 6
Wire diameter: 9.5 mm (.370")
Coil diameter: 106 mm (4.173")
Spring rate: 13.66 kg/cm (76.5 lb/in)
With blue paint spot

Early Matiz rear springs:
Overall length: 287 mm (11.30")
Number of coils: 7
Wire diameter: 10.5 mm (.413")
Coil diameter: (Apparently 106 mm?) (=4.173")
Spring rate: ?????

Late Matiz springs:
Overall length: 262 mm (10.310")
Number of coils: 5
Wire diameter: 11.5 mm (.453")
Coil diameter: 122.5 mm (4.823")
In my case, with a white and a green paint spot.

So, when shopping for Matiz springs you need to be sure they have 7 coils, and that they are such as will fit the 1998-2005 models. *Not* the 2005-on models.

I'm going to fit the GAZ shocks anyway, to see how they get along with the original springs. My main problem is with the suspension bottoming – and I have a 2,000 mile trip coming up in which I shall be the lighter of two people in the car (normally it is just me).

I looked at getting some fresh Matiz rear springs of the correct kind, but was surprised to see how often they are sold singly, and also how they seem often to be sold with a suffix P, R or L. But the Honda springs are both sold under the same part number?

As to the shock absorbers:
I'm fitting GAZ ones, but I checked their weight:

Original shocks are 2 lbs 12 oz.
GAZ shocks are 3 lbs 12 oz.
ProTech shocks are 2 lbs 3 oz. (993 grams)

Those GAZ ones are very heavy!

Best regards, Tony.
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