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Old 05-15-2006, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best mp3/ipod stereo unit

I'm looking for an affordable mp3 playing CD unit for the insight with an ipod link. Which ones will fit my car and will they need major modifications? I was looking at crutchfield and they all said it's going to need mods...


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Old 05-15-2006, 06:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Crutchfield's data is largely incorrect for the Insight. I purchased a Kenwood KDC-X789 for my Insight, and Crutchfield said modifications would be necessary. However, it was easy to drop in the new stereo without mods.

If iPod compatibility is high on your list, then you should consider the new 2006 Alpine headunits. Most of them have a feature called "Full Speed iPod", and this makes them the best iPod headunits in my opinion. The older Alpines and Kenwoods (and other brands) have a very slow connection to the iPod that basically treats the iPod like a CD changer. They are good for shuffling songs, but that's about it. Navigating playlists and genres is almost impossible. I hated my Kenwood iPod adapter so much that I sold it, and just use an AUX input now.

The Alpine Full Speed interface is very fast. You can just twist a knob and easily move through your songs. I think I'll get one of these in a few months.

These Alpine units support the Full Speed Connection:

CDE-9852
CDA-9856
CDA-9857

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Old 05-15-2006, 06:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i installed a kewood that was ipod ready (can operate the pod through the head unit), an ipod adapter, and a pair of speakers for like $375. the speakers were like $100, and so was the adapter.... so that leaves 175 for the headunit and taxes. i did get my install free though

i'm happy with the setup although sometimes the ipod adapter doesn't recognise tracks that i've downloaded off limewire so i can't get any info on them. they still play though
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Old 05-16-2006, 08:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Alpine CDA-9857 w/ iPod HI-Speed

I have the Alpine CDA-9857 w/ iPod Hi speed connection and it's fantastic. I can access all my music and podcasts right from the biolite display (which is 40% brighter than conventional displays and is easy to read in direct sunlight) and it comes with a remote control as well so you can perform simple functions without taking your eyes off the road.

My Alpine is driving a pair of Polk 6 1/2in coaxials with external crossovers. The sound is excellent, but I am adding a pair of Polk 6x9 three ways and an Alpine 200w 4 channel amp to fill out the soundstage.

To stay on the lower cost side you may want to go with a pair of Boston Acoustic 6 1/2s and one of the 3 Alpine units with iPod Hi-speed.

One note on the podcasts. You'll need to make a playlist to include them as the unit doesn't list them as an individual category. If you use the smart playlist feature in iTunes you can specify the parameters and it will update the playlist automatically when you download new podcasts.
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Sounds like a nice setup Spacebug. By the way, what is a coaxial speaker?

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Default Thanks. See explanation below.

A coaxial speaker (also known as a two way speaker) is simply a speaker with an integrated woofer and tweeter combination as opposed to a component speaker which has individuals spakers for the woofers and tweeters.

Here's a link to the Polks I put in and the rears I'm trying to fit.

http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/products/mmc650

http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/products/mmc690

Component speakers usually allow for better imaging since you have more flexibility in placing the tweeters for best sound stage.

I went with the coax design to minimize cutting of the door panels on my Insight although if we can get them to fit, the three way 6x9's going in the rear may require a bit of metal trimming. Worst case, we'll see if we can fit a set of Polk component 6 1/2s in the rear or an identical pair of coaxial 6 1/2s to the ones in the doors. Either way, the Alpine amp driving the four speakers should be a big improvement with minimal loss of usable storage space.
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Old 05-18-2006, 02:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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From a purely technical point of view, round is best. Bigger is not always better. Carbon fibre can create nasty ringing if your crossover is not steep enough. Steep crossovers cause nasty phase distortion. Cast frames should be as open as possible to prevent standing waves. See

http://www.renaudio.com/RawDriverPics/34big.jpg

Sadly these are not available yet, as they would be almost perfect.

Nevertheless, a car is not a sound studio. If the Polk sound great, go for it.

If you want some alternative ideas check out http://www.solen.ca/
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I just ordered a JVC KD-HDR1 CD-receiver. My main reason for getting this unit was that it has a built in High Definition Radio tuner. HD Radio is digital and now being broadcast by many local radio stations. The JVC unit also has multicast capabilities. Some stations broadcast 2-3 digital streams on the same frequency.

This unit supports Ipods with the JVC adapter. It plays MP3 and WMA CD-R and CD-RW discs. It has SRS Circle Surround sound. It is also Satellite Radio ready.

I'm not sure about the Ipod features, but with a built in HD radio tuner, I believe this unit is worth a look.
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I'm with spacecowboy - I also have the Alpine 9857 (but in my S2000) and it works great with the iPod. As I mentioned in another thread, while you are driving, it is easier and MUCH more safe to navigate your iPod through the head unit than using the clickwheel. And yes - the full speed link is just as fast as using the clickwheel, so no annoying delay.

If you purchase it from Crutchfield, they will include the wiring harness and the full speed link cable for free.

Hope that helps! ^^
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Old 06-21-2006, 04:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I just got a $130 Clarion with an aux input in the rear of the unit through Crutchfield, installed it myself. I picked up a Monstor aux in adaptor for the iPod. The cable runs nice out the back, under the passenger side floor mat, and the iPod sits nicely under the e-break handle. You can always set up specific playlists for short trips to minimize the iPod distractions and have you passenger play DJ during longer road trips.

I just wanted a simple head unit that I could plug in the iPod without dropping to much dough...my set up meets all my criteria and sounds good.
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