Originally Posted by crxgator
i'm really confused because the p/n pads you gave for the HF are the same as the A/T insight.
ill check both out, at work tomorrow.
It gets worse. I went and found the old pads I replaced and they have no tabs or ears either. And I know the HPS 397 pads fit my Insight gen 1. Do you suppose the pad supplier uses only the HF pad now? According to the FMSI and Hawk pad drawings they appear to do so.
Aha! We pulled the replacement pads and indeed they are not HPS397. Back in the day we 'manufactured' many Hawk and Performance Friction pads for a number of SS racers. These pads indeed were made from another pad and inventoried as 1988 HF.
Though Honda did make a pad for the the 1985-87 CRX 1.3 and, 85 CRX HF, 82-83 Hatch 1.3 that has the dimensions of the Insight pad, more than likely we made the pad from either a Corvette rear D413, PC 413, or Alcon 740 ( Formula Atlantic) pad because they were offered in competition coimpounds. Both are quite close so only minimum machining or grinding is necessary.
However, the inner Corvette pad has the minimum thickness of 14.7 mm so they would be preferred although the 740 needed the least thickness trimming if indeed needed any thickness reduction.
We'll go thru the FMSI books and find out if there is a pad that works in a competition compostion and offered now..
But for now Hondaparts show a price in te $40 range so for most that's all thats needed.