The reason the "electronics that were supposedly causing the battery packs to fail from 00-04" as you say, is that they did not charge the battery pack above 80% and discharge the pack below 30%. The new upgraded BCM and MCM's changed the charge/discharge numbers to 60% and 40% (or something like that, I don't exactly remember the specific numbers). So what Honda did was use the battery pack less for the assist and therefor 'prolonged' its life. This is normal with any battery, the less you charge/discharge it, the more cycles it can have. But are not using the battery to its fullest potential...
The battery pack and the electronics can only be relaced at Honda's expense if it is still under warrenty. Some people have had their packs replaced 3 times... some are still using the original pack, depends totally on how the car is driven.
I have a 2000 with the original battery and at 175k miles I am starting to have battery problems, but there are remedies as you will learn if you read some of the other threads dealing with battery/IMA questions.
So with the new updates, it will only charge the battery to 60% of its total capacity, and then only let you discharge with IMA assist down to 40% capacity then the IMA kicks off?
One of the insights i'm looking at had all the parts fixed, on another car the BCM was replaced, but the MCM wasn't. How would replacing one but not the other affect the charging/discharging of the batteries?
One of the insights i'm looking at had all the parts fixed, on another car the BCM was replaced, but the MCM wasn't. How would replacing one but not the other affect the charging/discharging of the batteries?
2000-2001 Insights require a new MCM. 2002+ Insights are flashable (reprogrammable) and don't have to be changed.
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2000-2001 Insights require a new MCM. 2002+ Insights are flashable (reprogrammable) and don't have to be changed.
True but both of these insights were 2000 models. and the dealer said that one didn't have the MCM replaced, so i'm wondering how not replacing the MCM would affect things?
True but both of these insights were 2000 models. and the dealer said that one didn't have the MCM replaced, so i'm wondering how not replacing the MCM would affect things?
I have no idea. I'll sell you a set if you care.
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Pm me with a price for the set, might be interested.
Email me directly with your car info: MT or CVT and what ones you have now. PM's will get lost and will not get put into the system (I organize via email).
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