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Old 09-01-2011, 05:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OBDIIC&C What will/does it do?

Well it plugs into the OBDII port like a scan/ultra gauge and

1) Reads and display ENGINE data, load, water & air temp, O2 sensor voltage etc
2) Indicates Lean Burn mode via green led
3) Reads and display IMA data bat temp, amps, voltage, soc etc etc
4) Reads, shows and clears IMA and ECM codes
5) Allows manual control of BATTERY fans and SOC level.
6) Has an audible water temp alarm

Cost for the pcb, obdii plug and switch is $49 paypal to me as per my sig below.
Eli (BumbleBee) on the forum is offering a kit and build service in the US for an additional cost.

Is it better than the scan/ultraguage type devices?
Well that's for others to say, but it can access and display a lot of data they can't, including IMA specific information. It can also log/export data to a connected laptop directly into an excel spreadsheet.

All the released versions of the software are here.

V1 www.solarvan.co.uk/obdii/ODBIICANDCV0_01.HEX (Supports UK & US)
V2 www.solarvan.co.uk/obdii/ODBIICANDCV0_02.HEX (Supports UK & US)
V3 UK www.solarvan.co.uk/obdii/ODBIICANDC_UK_V0_03.HEX (Supports UK/EU Only)
V3 US www.solarvan.co.uk/obdii/ODBIICANDC_US_V0_03.HEX (Supports US/CAN Only)
V4 http://www.insightcentral.net/forums...dbiic-c_v4.zip (Supports UK & US)
V76 http://www.insightcentral.net/forums...076_030314.hex
(Supports UK & US) Latest Code

We have the following OBDIIC&C threads currently running. Please choose the most relevant when posting.

The manual thread, soley for my user manual and instruction posts. (Don't post in this one please)
OBDIIC&C User Manual

This main thread for all general queries, questions & comments.
OBDIIC&C Gauge

The performance testing thread and spreadsheet. 30-60 & 50-70 mph times, discussion.
OBDIIC&C Performance Testing

The ampere & watt hour counting thread.
Amp Hour counting with the OBDIIC&C Gauge

The RGB edition and other lcd mods thread.
OBDIIC&C Gauge RGB LCD edition and other modifications

The gauge build notes thread for self assemblers.
OBDIIC&C Gauge Build Notes

The gauge troubleshooting thread.
OBDIIC&C Troubleshooting

The Civic HCH1 version thread.
OBDIIC&C HCH1 Gen 1 Civic Hybrid

Related threads include.

The ECM/MCM/BCM revison thread and spreadsheet which applies to all Honda IMA cars.
BCM, MCM & ECM Revisions

Everyone should download and print the below OBDIIC&C crib sheets.
Even I have one and I wrote the software!!


US ECM version:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B70...VVaclc1bFAtR2c

UK ECM version:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B70...2J4TGVpR2RkWms


Please review any of these you are unfamiliar with and add data to the spreadsheets as relevant.
The more data we accumulate the better our understanding of the cars will become.

I now have some OBDIIC&C stock built up.

I have twelve built and tested units, minus the case. $249 inc postage.
I have ten kits inc, programmed pic, cable, plug, lcd, components etc etc (Everything minus the case). $149 inc postage.
I have a plentiful stock of plain pcb's. $49 inc postage.

All include lifetime software license and free updates. Hardware is rtb 3 year warranty.

Various case options are available on the forum, as are the free 3d printer files.
I may have a stock of 3d printed cases in the new year, details to follow.

Yes the pricing has changed. Why?

1) The exchange rate fluctuates around. I have to cover my costs and time.
2) The base pcb only price has been reduced.
3) The full kit includes me sourcing everything inc things like the OBDII plug, cable, and programming the pic.
4) The built unit includes all the above and personally building your gauge so you are guaranteed a working unit with the latest software.

All ready to go. Treat yourself.

Thanks Peter
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Old 09-01-2011, 05:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As with all John Peel developments, I shall watch this with interest.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'll take three.

How about that gizmo you posted about a while back? I studied it a bit. It seems to be a really nice piece of kit, as you would say.

Geoff's Projects - The Maximite

Perhaps a little expensive/overkill for these purposes though.

What does the C&C part stand for? Command and Conquer?

Data logging will be my main focus/want. Ideally, it would be nice to log every data point the car spits out!
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One suggestion regarding DTCs:

Is there a way to get the blink code too? That's one of the great things about the HIM, it pulls the full code, ie: P1449-78, without having to try and read the dash blink codes.
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One suggestion regarding DTCs:
Is there a way to get the blink code too? That's one of the great things about the HIM, it pulls the full code, ie: P1449-78, without having to try and read the dash blink codes.
Possibly like the BCM gauge it will evolve/improve over time as I make more discoveries about the data stream.

The Maximite looks a nice device but I'm getting quite familiar with the basic pics now and like a minimal hardware approach, no point in having another huge learning curve to get up to speed with that. Feel free to get one and program your own gizmo!

I like using the small pics as that forces me to refine the software to pack more into the code space, good mental exercise.

OBDIIC&C = On Board Diagnostic Command & Control
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This may seem like a really stupid question but why not use dash command and an automotive PC. The "hybrid battery pack remaining charge" is a supported output along with the DTC's for an ODBII compliant ECU.

By removing the dash, laser scanning the surround and rapid prototyping a replacement, a TFT widescreen could be mounted in place of the LED dash and the sport button on the steering wheel used to scroll through a variety of screens.

You could then tooth the data to your android or iphone app and even get a real time graph of you MPG on screen...

or is this a really stupid idea?
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There is so much more information available from the OBDII port that is Insight-specific, no aftermarket gauge is going to be able to compare to a purpose built job.

We might be able to make some XGauges for the Scangauge, but I don't think it will ever be able to grab all of the IMA data.
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I get your point but...


SoCalEvo.net Android Torque + Bluetooth OBD II Sensor Evo X MR - YouTube

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done for 12.99

I might just give this ago and let you know.
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OBDII devices are a dime a dozen. Really, the whole point of this is to get IMA data. Anything else is just icing on the cake, as far as I'm concerned..
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Mike you will be wasting your money if you want the IMA,SRS,ABS data and/or some of the Insight specific OBDII data. If you just want the generic OBDII data fine.

The Scangauge has the wrong connections and protocols to grab anything from the IMA side. It's a generic OBDII device with a few bells and whistles like the thing in your link, XGauge will not work for anything that is not sent/recd over the K/Line that sadly means detailed IMA,SRS,ABS stuff is not available to it.

I have now captured samples of data from every IMA,SRS,ABS command and am about 50% of the way through the Insight specific PGMFI ECU OBDII ones. There will now be a looonnnggggg pause as I study the data and work out what it all means and how to emulate it all. I have worked out the IMA CRC routine and now need to work on the software/hardware. Keep watching these threads for updates. For those with the BCM Gauge it may be possible for those who can weild a soldering iron to adapt it to do the basics.
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