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Old 09-01-2011, 06:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OBDIIC&C What will/does it do?

Well it plugs into the OBDII port like a scan/ultra gauge and

1) Reads and display ENGINE data, load, water & air temp, O2 sensor voltage etc
2) Indicates Lean Burn mode via green led
3) Reads and display IMA data bat temp, amps, voltage, soc etc etc
4) Reads, shows and clears IMA and ECM codes
5) Allows manual control of BATTERY fans and SOC level.
6) Has an audible water temp alarm

Is it better than the scan/ultraguage type devices?
Well that's for others to say, but it can access and display a lot of data they can't, including IMA specific information. It can also log/export data to a connected laptop directly into an excel spreadsheet.

Read this article to learn all about it's features.

http://www.insightcentral.net/forums...troduction.pdf

The current version of the software is below.

V06 05/09/2016 http://www.insightcentral.net/forums...600_050916.hex
Supports all cars and includes vacum fluorescent display support and a few bug fixes.

We have the following OBDIIC&C threads currently running. Please choose the most relevant when posting.

The manual thread, soley for my user manual and instruction posts. (Don't post in this one please)
OBDIIC&C User Manual

This main thread for all general queries, questions & comments.
OBDIIC&C Gauge

The performance testing thread and spreadsheet. 30-60 & 50-70 mph times, discussion.
OBDIIC&C Performance Testing

The ampere & watt hour counting thread.
Amp Hour counting with the OBDIIC&C Gauge

The RGB edition and other lcd mods thread.
OBDIIC&C Gauge RGB LCD edition and other modifications

The gauge build notes thread for self assemblers.
OBDIIC&C Gauge Build Notes

The gauge troubleshooting thread.
OBDIIC&C Troubleshooting

The Civic HCH1 version thread.
OBDIIC&C HCH1 Gen 1 Civic Hybrid

Related threads include.

The ECM/MCM/BCM revison thread and spreadsheet which applies to all Honda IMA cars.
BCM, MCM & ECM Revisions

Everyone should download and print the below OBDIIC&C crib sheets.
Even I have one and I wrote the software!!


US ECM version:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B70...VVaclc1bFAtR2c

UK ECM version:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B70...2J4TGVpR2RkWms


Please review any of these you are unfamiliar with and add data to the spreadsheets as relevant.
The more data we accumulate the better our understanding of the cars will become.

I have OBDIIC&C stock ready for dispatch.

I have built and tested units including 3d printed case. $300 + $30 postage + paypal 5%.
I have a plentiful stock of plain pcb's. $49 inc postage and paypal fee.

All include lifetime software license. Hardware is rtb 3 year warranty.

All ready to go.

Thanks Peter
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As with all John Peel developments, I shall watch this with interest.
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I'll take three.

How about that gizmo you posted about a while back? I studied it a bit. It seems to be a really nice piece of kit, as you would say.

Geoff's Projects - The Maximite

Perhaps a little expensive/overkill for these purposes though.

What does the C&C part stand for? Command and Conquer?

Data logging will be my main focus/want. Ideally, it would be nice to log every data point the car spits out!
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One suggestion regarding DTCs:

Is there a way to get the blink code too? That's one of the great things about the HIM, it pulls the full code, ie: P1449-78, without having to try and read the dash blink codes.
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One suggestion regarding DTCs:
Is there a way to get the blink code too? That's one of the great things about the HIM, it pulls the full code, ie: P1449-78, without having to try and read the dash blink codes.
Possibly like the BCM gauge it will evolve/improve over time as I make more discoveries about the data stream.

The Maximite looks a nice device but I'm getting quite familiar with the basic pics now and like a minimal hardware approach, no point in having another huge learning curve to get up to speed with that. Feel free to get one and program your own gizmo!

I like using the small pics as that forces me to refine the software to pack more into the code space, good mental exercise.

OBDIIC&C = On Board Diagnostic Command & Control
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This may seem like a really stupid question but why not use dash command and an automotive PC. The "hybrid battery pack remaining charge" is a supported output along with the DTC's for an ODBII compliant ECU.

By removing the dash, laser scanning the surround and rapid prototyping a replacement, a TFT widescreen could be mounted in place of the LED dash and the sport button on the steering wheel used to scroll through a variety of screens.

You could then tooth the data to your android or iphone app and even get a real time graph of you MPG on screen...

or is this a really stupid idea?
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There is so much more information available from the OBDII port that is Insight-specific, no aftermarket gauge is going to be able to compare to a purpose built job.

We might be able to make some XGauges for the Scangauge, but I don't think it will ever be able to grab all of the IMA data.
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I get your point but...


SoCalEvo.net Android Torque + Bluetooth OBD II Sensor Evo X MR - YouTube

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done for 12.99

I might just give this ago and let you know.
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OBDII devices are a dime a dozen. Really, the whole point of this is to get IMA data. Anything else is just icing on the cake, as far as I'm concerned..
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Mike you will be wasting your money if you want the IMA,SRS,ABS data and/or some of the Insight specific OBDII data. If you just want the generic OBDII data fine.

The Scangauge has the wrong connections and protocols to grab anything from the IMA side. It's a generic OBDII device with a few bells and whistles like the thing in your link, XGauge will not work for anything that is not sent/recd over the K/Line that sadly means detailed IMA,SRS,ABS stuff is not available to it.

I have now captured samples of data from every IMA,SRS,ABS command and am about 50% of the way through the Insight specific PGMFI ECU OBDII ones. There will now be a looonnnggggg pause as I study the data and work out what it all means and how to emulate it all. I have worked out the IMA CRC routine and now need to work on the software/hardware. Keep watching these threads for updates. For those with the BCM Gauge it may be possible for those who can weild a soldering iron to adapt it to do the basics.
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