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Old 12-03-2004, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was all set to do my first oil change today, and then.....I read in the manual that you need a "special tool" to remove the oil filter.
Is this just the usual oil filter wrench? Or is it something truly for the insight that one needs?
(I'm doubting that's the case, but wanted to check.)

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Old 12-03-2004, 10:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just a regular oil-filter tool worked for me. Get the right size for the small filter though.

You may want to read the various threads about proper torque for the drain plug (and other plug modifications) and perhaps consider the Pela oil extractor. The magnesium oil pan threads can get damaged.

If you go the drain plug route get yourself a cheap new washer from a Honda dealer. May not be necessary, but no big deal to do. Get two while you're at it.
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Old 12-03-2004, 01:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The manual states you need a special tool because the special tool is a small oil filter cap wrench. So don't be fooled by this term. Take the new filter with you to determine the correct size filter wrench. I perfer the end cap style.
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just three points from my own experience.

1) do not switch you drain bolt to any kind of Fram sure drain!!! they are not designed to work on the insight and they dont... not enough threads.

2) The way you put an oil filter on it to tighten it to just past hand tight. So a properly installed oil filer should not even need filter wrench to take it off... mine didnt.. just a firm grip.

3) Go to autozone or pep boys or wherever and get a 6 dollar 1 quart oil tank with caps... as these make any oil change much easier!!! The wide mouth and large capacity makes the whole process muc simpler.
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The way you put an oil filter on it to tighten it to just past hand tight. So a properly installed oil filer should not even need filter wrench to take it off... mine didnt.. just a firm grip.
I totally agree with this! Filter wrenches should actually only be used if you can't grip the filter to turn it tight or to take the filter off.
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Also, to help insure that you can remove it by hand:
Lightly coat the seating surface of the rubber gasket on the oil filter with grease or oil if grease is not available. It will help keep the rubber from clutching to the metal.
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Also, to help insure that you can remove it by hand:
Lightly coat the seating surface of the rubber gasket on the oil filter with grease or oil if grease is not available.

Don't use grease, just dab some oil from the new bottle you will be putting in.
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I use silicone grease on the filters rubber gasket.It does not thin with heat or attact the rubber Montague
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Sounds like a better idea on the surface but, silicone is poison for O2 sensors and CAT's (catalysts) It's effects are cumulative. Most manufacturers are concerned enough to have discontinued use of "silicone" gasket sealers in favor of silicone "free" formulas.

Silicone is not changed as its migrates through the engine (e.g. oxidized). When silicone comes in contact with the O2 or CAT surfaces its likely to cling. Since its properties do not change with the combustion or catalytic processes it effectively "smothers" that area of the surface. As these areas grow the ability of these components deteriorate.

The filters gasket is a type of rubber that is durable enough to be continuously exposed to oil without damage.

I'd recommend stop using the silicone.

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