The TPS mod helps some people stay in lean burn. Other people don't like the "delayed" feeling it gives the throttle.
The clutch switch mod, aka Calpod switch enables you to disable assist/regen at will.
Lots of information here on both. If you don't want to pay eBay prices, both can be done for a few dollars.
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Insight #1 - Silver '01 5MT @ 158,388 as of 7/11 - Best Tank: 84.5MPG over 807mi
Insight #2 - Silver '01 5MT @ 450,000 as of 1/12 - Best Tank: 86.0MPG over 800mi
Insight #3 - Silver '00 5MT, MIMA #163P, BCM Gauge, OBDIIC&C Gauge, BetterBattery @ 228,869 as of 1/12 - Best Tank: 78.4mpg over 687mi
I have a TPS smoothing circuit for sale. Brand new never installed. I purchased it from that fine gentleman on eBay then decided I did not need it.
PM me if interested.
Thanks
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The clutch switch mod, aka Calpod switch enables you to disable assist/regen at will.
Lots of information here on both. If you don't want to pay eBay prices, both can be done for a few dollars.
The second eBay item listed by the OP is not the Calpod assist / regen mod. It is basically acts like a brake pedal switch. It is hooked up with the brake pedal switch (instead of the clutch pedal).... It allows for full regen (limited by IMA) just like you pressed your foot on the brake pedal.
This mod is silly (IMO) because if you lightly press on the brake pedal you get the same thing as this mod and it will save you $28.00 plus installation time.
It is easier to adjust the standard brake light switch that is already in place so that switch contact is made before the friction brakes engage (which I believe most Insights are already adjusted correctly).
Using your foot on the brake pedal is more natural for the same amount of regen compared to pressing in on a momentary switch.
Waste of money IMO.
JoeCVT = Just your average CVT owner
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2004 CVT Red Insight (purchased May 2011)
Relocated outside temp sensor near mid engine
No other mods performed yet
2003 CVT Blue Insight
Modified version of MIMA_L (with foot pedal)
Automatic warm air intake (all season)
Low Speed Auto Stop (LSAS)
ABS - IMA regen enabler (allows regen during ABS)
Relocated outside temp sensor near mid engine
Cooling fans powered by 12V Solar Panel
2001 MT Blue Insight (purchased Nov 2011)
Not registered yet
Ahh, guess I should have looked instead of assuming. But yes I agree, you can do the same thing with your foot long before you ever engage the physical brakes.
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Insight #1 - Silver '01 5MT @ 158,388 as of 7/11 - Best Tank: 84.5MPG over 807mi
Insight #2 - Silver '01 5MT @ 450,000 as of 1/12 - Best Tank: 86.0MPG over 800mi
Insight #3 - Silver '00 5MT, MIMA #163P, BCM Gauge, OBDIIC&C Gauge, BetterBattery @ 228,869 as of 1/12 - Best Tank: 78.4mpg over 687mi
I developed a TPS circuit that I shared with everyone here months ago, that even in its most complex form which I got asked for in PMs, with a variable resistor to range cutoff frequency from 0.15Hz to 1.5kHz, and a footswitch controlled 12V relay, has a BOM cost of like $13 and 20 minutes for assembly.
The idea behind it was the footswitch goes where the 'dead mans pedal' should be. Accelerate as normal, and then once up to speed in 5th gear, you put your foot on the switch to engage the TPS mod and make it easier to hold LB. Best of both worlds.
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2001 Silver Canadian DM MT (has DRL and A/C std)
Mods:
CARD switch
John Wayland's Shoebox Sub
OBDIIC&C Gauge v0.02 (Beta Test Team Member)
It's very easy to source the parts for the Calpod clutch switch mod yourself. Installing it is another matter, I hope you're good at soldering in a confined space, upside down, with no light!
The TPS smoothing circuit is the better "deal" because it comes pre-made and apparently the seller is also including support and instructions for exact installation. True, it's just like $2.50 worth of parts, but the time involved in getting them together, as well as the time spent digging online looking for exactly where to splice at the wiring harness, and then not being sure about certain things... the value is definitely there for some who don't want to deal with all of that jazz.
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Detriments: 270,000 miles, P1447+P1449 IMA failure (bad battery), P1420 catalyst failure
Mollifying modifications: Scangauge, 70% condensor blockoff, OEM tires at (more than 50)psi, clutch bypass switch
Stats: 51 lifetime MPG when purchased late 2011; 52.1 lifetime MPG current.
It's very easy to source the parts for the Calpod clutch switch mod yourself. Installing it is another matter, I hope you're good at soldering in a confined space, upside down, with no light!
ScotchLoc connectors is what I used to avoid soldering upside down in similar circumstances. Secured, firmly taped, and zip tied , the connection is good. Not a lot of room there.
ScotchLoc connectors is what I used to avoid soldering upside down in similar circumstances. Secured, firmly taped, and zip tied , the connection is good. Not a lot of room there.
I tried the 18-22AWG Scotchloks and failed miserably, so I ended up doing the chop and splice, and shoddy solder. Definitely not one of my proudest moments. Good to hear that the Scotchlok worked for you though. Where did you mount your switch? I put my switch on the shift knob, in the perfect position for my thumb to actuate IMA on and off. I feel like such a boss driving around with IMA on command, and it always gets passengers going - until I show them my Scangauge MPG average
__________________ 2002 Red Honda Insect 5MT
Detriments: 270,000 miles, P1447+P1449 IMA failure (bad battery), P1420 catalyst failure
Mollifying modifications: Scangauge, 70% condensor blockoff, OEM tires at (more than 50)psi, clutch bypass switch
Stats: 51 lifetime MPG when purchased late 2011; 52.1 lifetime MPG current.
Last edited by RedJellyBean; 12-31-2011 at 11:33 PM.
..Good to hear that the Scotchlok worked for you though.
So far so good, I used some small needle nose vise grips to snap the scotchlocs down; not sure if the tape was required but I didn't want to do that part again soon.
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Where did you mount your switch?
I don't have the exact switch you do yet but had to install cruise control with the same connections at the brake switch and also adding a clutch switch for that system. I'm considering the smoothing circuit might be something I'd use with the Rostra cruise control on long trips and would likely mount a switch in one of the three blanks aside the steering column.
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Anyone tried these products for improved MPG?
. I want a Citrus to keep for myself
But yes I agree, you can do the same thing with your foot long before you ever engage the physical brakes.
