My Best MPG So Far

[Eli]

The warm air intake mod is to help lean burn. It's not going to help a 2nd generation Insight in the same manner.

Make sure you're using recircle. Coolant temp will come up to temp a lot faster if you have the heat on, though of course not as fast as with the heat off.

Regarding the block heater.. I see the same temps that Need4Speed does. It makes sense that the block heater isn't going to be as effective in the 2nd generation under the same ambient conditions. Same wattage with a bigger engine = more surface area = lower equilibrium point.

I'm not even sure why you're comparing them in any regards. They're completely and totally different cars and not comparable in the slightest. The only similarity is that they both carry the "Insight" name, which is a disservice to the 1st generation, IMO.

[Cobb]

With a warm air intake and letting her go over 190 I see no more than 25 degrees of timing. When I have a cai or unmodded and keep the engine about 180 I see 30+ degrees of timing.

Ive met a few people online and in person who say they too have tried the warm air suggestions and find on their trips it hurts vs help. Of course many of them travel at least an hour or 30+ miles. Those who travel short trips seem to benefit from hot anything.

Regardless of the vehicle, it seems we have quite a few intelligent people here, but when it comes to the brass tacks, they pre heat their vehicle and charge it, drive to the top of a hill, reset the trip then say in -32 degree weather. Opps, I got 150 mpg!!!

They use a driving style or technique that is no where documented or even a way to add a control. I always use cruse control as a control as anyone can set it and duplicate the route I took as that is a constant.

Some how I just do not see how that is fare or any way to set standard for comparison.


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[Eli]

That's not true at all, most people here are honest and aren't out to impress anyone except themselves. But I do understand the sentiment. That's why I rarely talk about one way trips, and only if they're several hundred miles.

But you're right, it's a disservice to others overall when people post things like this but don't tell us about the circumstances. That's why when I post things about my MPG I go into great detail, giving average speed, a topo map of the route I took, etc. It's only fair.

[diamondlarry]

Originally Posted by Eli

That's not true at all, most people here are honest and aren't out to impress anyone except themselves. But I do understand the sentiment. That's why I rarely talk about one way trips, and only if they're several hundred miles.

But you're right, it's a disservice to others overall when people post things like this but don't tell us about the circumstances. That's why when I post things about my MPG I go into great detail, giving average speed, a topo map of the route I took, etc. It's only fair.

Good point Eli. I too will try to give more round trip details as well. I was only mentioning the one direction above since the topic seemed to be low temperatures and that particular return trip was later in the day and the temps were usually higher. I also agree that knowing the route is important and was wondering if you had any suggestions on what to use for topo maps. I also like to know the topography ahead of time on road trips, especially when it's the first time I've traveled it so a good topo map would be invaluable.

[Redlinesd1]

Didn't think I would cause such a stir but I was just excited to see some high numbers as I've only had this car a short time. Yes car was warm as I just filled up at the gas station and I don't have any extras. It's all stock.