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Old 01-19-2012, 07:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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That's fine by me, I love being a guinea pig.

(yes, those are my guinea pigs)
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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BTW, my IMA light came on last week, but went back off again, the CEL that came with it is still there though.

I wasn't sure if that would be helpful or not, so I've been saving it for you
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Sam/Calpod You are both on ze list.

I assume you both have programmers and the pickit software installed.
You will need to be familiar with that as there will be a lot of gauge flashing going on.

I suggest you practise with backing up (Exporting hex) your OBDIIC&C insight version software for a start.

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Old 01-21-2012, 12:04 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Ok, RPMS were accurate in all version .04 and up.

Battery fan was off, so I don't know if pushing it down turned it off, but holding the button up kept it on as long as the button was held. It turned off immediately on release.

SOC: was at 17 bars and hit right and it climbed like a positive recal up to 20 bars. Hit left and nothing happened, but I've noticed the HCH is a little slicker about negative recals. It stays exactly where it is and starts showing charge bars, but the gauge on the dash WILL NOT fall except whenever the assist is blipped even a little... then it falls like a stone (maybe a bar for every second assist is showing). So I basically rocked my car back and forth 4 times in the space getting that "launch assist" and it dropped two bars after hitting the left button.

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Try this one, if it works it should keep you going. Alpha V0.08

Has 4 Ima & 4 Ecm parameters inc AFR
Has auto shutdown
Centigrade only
Lean Burn Led still driven by after cat sensor.

Up MPI Fan High
Down MPI Fan Off
Right sets high Soc
Left sets low Soc
Push to restart if gets stuck

Use with care this is all very beta if you screw up anything it's bad luck.
Untested as usual as I don't have access to a car.

Please post screen pics it helps with debugging
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Try this one, if it works it should keep you going. Alpha V0.08

Has 4 Ima & 4 Ecm parameters inc AFR
Has auto shutdown

Press to restart if gets stuck
Right sets high Soc
Left sets low Soc
Up MPI Fan High
Down MPI Fan Off

Use with care this is all very beta if you screw up anything it's bad luck.
Untested as usual as I don't have access to a car.

Please post screen pics it helps with debugging
It works!! Well, not yet, Here is what I'm getting.
Temp 0
Volts 161
SOC 70
AMP 0.00

Moving the buttons does not work on any direction.
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Can you both do the firmware test please in case your vehicles are not consistent with each other. I'll post another test version shortly.
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Ok, my results:

I'm not sure what "TEM" is supposed to be, but it is always 0.

VOL: This seems to be updated only when you initially turn the unit/car on. Last night when we were tinkering, it was 157, then midway through (all the starts), after one of the starts it was 156. This morning when I started up it was 156, but I drove 1 mile and stopped, when I restarted it was 155. This didn't change the rest of the 25ish miles I drove. I did turn the car off at about 25 miles, and after that it was 162 the next 25 miles.

The SOC + AMP readings are perfect, as far as I can tell.

SOC charged slowly from ~40 (I reset it last night when we were dinkering with all those previous updates) to about 50 and then jumped to 70. ABC would usually occur at 3.5-6 amps up to ~70. Resetting the charge low 2x times had it positive recal to 75, and with some downhill regen, the highest I made it go was 77.8.

I did a sort of whack pack by draining it to ~55, resetting to full, draining as far as it would go. It suddenly hit a cliff the second time around 60 and dropped all the way to 24.5! Ouch. Slowly charged up to 50% and then had a positive recal to 70 (my battery is pretty weak).

AMP: The highest assist I saw was 63.0 when I started the kludgy pack whack accelerating in 5th at 50 uphill... in the morning, it was much more anemic (temps were cold) at around 42 max assist. Regen was at most 38, but that would only be for a second or so tapering off to 23-25 typically. Sitting at autostop, headlights on I had -2.8, headlights off was -0.6, headlights on, heater blower on max, rear defogger on, brakes depressed was -4.3. I also noticed the ammeter would go negative about 50% of the time I shifted into neutral at low speeds (but didn't hit the brakes). I'm guessing this was the 12v being topped off sometimes... and I've heard the HCH relies on the battery for maintaining 12v at idle.

ECT (Engine Coolant Temp?): Seemed pretty accurate at least at the low end. When I went out this morning, the thermometer said 31F, when I first started the car the ECT said 0 (C I'm assuming). It crawled its way up to 84 on the highway with the heat off, and wouldn't go any higher no matter how much I abused it (flooring it in high gear up hills with heat off). Turning on the heater with fresh air could make it dip as low as 81 depending on fan speed.

IAT: I assume this is intake air temp and also C, it also seemed pretty accurate. It took a while to rise, and after everything was good and warmed up, around town at ~40mph, I'd get temps of 33-34, but on the highway this would fall to 20-21. After some extended stop and go and driving below 30, it got as high as 53, and coasting in auto stop for a bit it rose to 59, but I assume that's because no air was going through so the engine heated up the sensor.

The AFR value didn't show up and hence no lean burn LED either.
I don't know what the 4th value that didn't show up was.
Auto shutdown did work nicely.

Only thing I didn't test was the fan, because I couldn't hear it with the engine going in the driver's seat. I'll have to convince the wife to sit back there and listen while I manipulate the buttons.

Pics in order:
1) Just a minute after start and idle (hadn't yet cleared my windshield).
2) After idling a few minutes and driving less than a mile at 30 mph.
3) At 2 miles, driving 45.
4) After merging on to the highway, letting off the gas to see the coasting regen a bit.
5) At the midway stop (post driving around stop and go + low speed then coasting at idle stop through the parking lot to a space).

I also have two videos, but they don't really show anything interesting happening. Or at least, nothing you can't see in the pics.

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OK I've made a few changes and will post shortly.
I'm reasonably confident we are getting there.

Strange differences between your two cars

Are they both Gen 1 Civics?

What year exactly are they? Chassis numbers? Any ECM or MCM upgrades?

You should get the same results. Calpod please try again.

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Ok, my results:

I'm not sure what "TEM" is supposed to be, but it is always 0.

VOL: This seems to be updated only when you initially turn the unit/car on. Last night when we were tinkering, it was 157, then midway through (all the starts), after one of the starts it was 156. This morning when I started up it was 156, but I drove 1 mile and stopped, when I restarted it was 155. This didn't change the rest of the 25ish miles I drove. I did turn the car off at about 25 miles, and after that it was 162 the next 25 miles.

The SOC + AMP readings are perfect, as far as I can tell.

SOC charged slowly from ~40 (I reset it last night when we were dinkering with all those previous updates) to about 50 and then jumped to 70. ABC would usually occur at 3.5-6 amps up to ~70. Resetting the charge low 2x times had it positive recal to 75, and with some downhill regen, the highest I made it go was 77.8.

I did a sort of whack pack by draining it to ~55, resetting to full, draining as far as it would go. It suddenly hit a cliff the second time around 60 and dropped all the way to 24.5! Ouch. Slowly charged up to 50% and then had a positive recal to 70 (my battery is pretty weak).

AMP: The highest assist I saw was 63.0 when I started the kludgy pack whack accelerating in 5th at 50 uphill... in the morning, it was much more anemic (temps were cold) at around 42 max assist. Regen was at most 38, but that would only be for a second or so tapering off to 23-25 typically. Sitting at autostop, headlights on I had -2.8, headlights off was -0.6, headlights on, heater blower on max, rear defogger on, brakes depressed was -4.3. I also noticed the ammeter would go negative about 50% of the time I shifted into neutral at low speeds (but didn't hit the brakes). I'm guessing this was the 12v being topped off sometimes... and I've heard the HCH relies on the battery for maintaining 12v at idle.

ECT (Engine Coolant Temp?): Seemed pretty accurate at least at the low end. When I went out this morning, the thermometer said 31F, when I first started the car the ECT said 0 (C I'm assuming). It crawled its way up to 84 on the highway with the heat off, and wouldn't go any higher no matter how much I abused it (flooring it in high gear up hills with heat off). Turning on the heater with fresh air could make it dip as low as 81 depending on fan speed.

IAT: I assume this is intake air temp and also C, it also seemed pretty accurate. It took a while to rise, and after everything was good and warmed up, around town at ~40mph, I'd get temps of 33-34, but on the highway this would fall to 20-21. After some extended stop and go and driving below 30, it got as high as 53, and coasting in auto stop for a bit it rose to 59, but I assume that's because no air was going through so the engine heated up the sensor.

The AFR value didn't show up and hence no lean burn LED either.
I don't know what the 4th value that didn't show up was.
Auto shutdown did work nicely.

Only thing I didn't test was the fan, because I couldn't hear it with the engine going in the driver's seat. I'll have to convince the wife to sit back there and listen while I manipulate the buttons.

Pics in order:
1) Just a minute after start and idle (hadn't yet cleared my windshield).
2) After idling a few minutes and driving less than a mile at 30 mph.
3) At 2 miles, driving 45.
4) After merging on to the highway, letting off the gas to see the coasting regen a bit.
5) At the midway stop (post driving around stop and go + low speed then coasting at idle stop through the parking lot to a space).

I also have two videos, but they don't really show anything interesting happening. Or at least, nothing you can't see in the pics.

Sam
That's odd, I did not get anything to the right, the car is out on the road so I can't do any other testing at the moment.... Sam, which version of the code are you running?
I'm running HCH1_OBDII_V0_08.HEX.
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