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Old 09-09-2011, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2000 manual Insight and I think I need to buy some new o2 sensors. I was wondering if these will work? Amazon says they will but I just want to check to see if any one here can confirm it and or have any experience with these brands.

Amazon.com: NGK 24301 Oxygen Sensor - NGK/NTK Packaging: Automotive Amazon.com: NGK 24301 Oxygen Sensor - NGK/NTK Packaging: Automotive

Amazon.com: Denso 234-4094 Oxygen Sensor (Air and Fuel Ratio Sensor): Automotive Amazon.com: Denso 234-4094 Oxygen Sensor (Air and Fuel Ratio Sensor): Automotive
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Which O2 sensor is it, the upstream Cat right behind the engine takes a 5 wire O2 sensor. You have to be careful, the cheapest 5 wire sensor I could find was a Bosch for about $170 but it works great. Pretty sure the sensor on the down stream Cat is a 4 wire.

Edit: Pretty sure this is what I used for the 5 wire upstream sensor. (Bosch PN15393)
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Even says in the discription that it has 5 wires.

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Yes. The NTK 24301 cross references with the Bosch 15393. That's a good find, as the Bosch part is $176. The Bosch says NTK on it, btw.

Not sure on the 2nd.
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OK so the NTK 24301 is a go for the up stream sensor. Now I just need the down stream sensor.

This is the other one by Bosch. Actually cheaper than the Denso I posted.

Amazon.com: Bosch 13075 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment: Automotive Amazon.com: Bosch 13075 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment: Automotive
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Sorry, a little confused here. From the info in the thread linked below (top half of page 2), it looks like the NGK 24301 Oxygen Sensor does not have the same output range as the OEM unit and will prevent a MT Insight from going into Lean Burn. Is this not the case, or does this OP have a CVT model?

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He said manual.

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Sorry, a little confused here. From the info in the thread linked below (top half of page 2), it looks like the NGK 24301 Oxygen Sensor does not have the same output range as the OEM unit and will prevent a MT Insight from going into Lean Burn. Is this not the case, or does this OP have a CVT model?

Now What? Hard Stumbling Trying To Get Into Lean Burn Mode!
Not the problem. Bucking is EGR and rarely fuel injector related, not O2 sensor. If you continue reading, he solved it with a new EGR valve.

I have no experience with the 24301 but like I said it cross references to the 15393, and the Bosch 15393 actually says NTK on it....
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Well Ron from HBR found his sensors and I bought them. The only bad part is that I cannot get the secondary sensor off. Its frozen to the cat. I thought about just taking the cat off and replacing it but the cat is frozen to the engine block.

I'm taking my car to the local shop to see what they can do. Hopefully I wont have to buy a new cat.
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I would heat up the metal around the sensor with a torch, it should expand and loosen the sensor so you can break it lose.
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How is the second cat frozen to the block?

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