IMA light/ P1447 warranty and costs

[Eli]

Absolutely do NOT let them tell you that you need new IMA computers!!!! FFS. I hate dealerships.

Your error is P1447 and they're going to tell you that you need $4000 in repairs. Tell them to go pound sand.

I can't remember if the 10 year/150k mile warranty ends in 2002 or 2004. Read the stickied thread on the subject.

[dls1981dustin]

Originally Posted by Joeburmeister

Hate to hijack this thread but I just want to post my issue.

I purchased my automatic 2003 Honda Insight (original invoice date 12/29/2002) with 37K miles just last October. Supposedly, it was own by very elderly gentleman who hardly ever drove it (the tires were dry rotted when i purchased the car). He had to sell it because he was no longer able to drive on his own.

Anyways, I started a new job that required me to commute 90 miles each way.Hence, why I purchased the Insight. The car now has 48K and i typically get 48-50 mpg (all highway driving at 70-85 mph). Just recently,I started to notice the battery charge indicator would 'jump'. Also, it wouldn't charge up as fast after going up a long hill.Today, I received the dreaded IMA light for the 1st time (No CE light). The car drives fine. It charges/assists like normal. The only problem is that the battery depletes faster, and it takes a long time to get it charged backup.

I stopped by my Honda Dealer today after work, and they couldn't do anything for me today (it was like 5:45pm) and scheduled me an appointment for Monday. They did say the battery has an 8 year/80K mile warranty, so according to them, my warranty has expired. They told me it was okay to drive it, although I may notice a drop in my fuel economy as the vehicle is running mainly on gas, with very little assist,if any at all, from the battery.

Can you all point me to a link where it states the battery has an 100K/10 year warranty? Is that extension only valid in CA? I live in South Carolina. Why would the dealer state the battery only comes with an 8/80 warranty? Should I take it to another Honda dealer? They did say it may not be battery - it could be the computer card that is faulty. They won't know until they perform some diagnostics.

I went thru the same thing with my 2003 MT Insight last Jan. I bought if off a older gentleman that bought it brand new and I bought it with 33k miles. Although it was a real "gem" it tripped the IMA light after about 3 weeks of ownership. Having been a 2003 it was covered by SB 06-057 which is 10 years or 157K which ever comes first. You may have to "dig" you heels in and stand you ground but it should absolutly be covered. I believe SC is not a excluded state. Read this US IMA warranty 10 year extension UPDATED to all 50 states!

[dls1981dustin]

Go to this Sticky and download the first Zip named HondaInsightPDFs.zip (50mb) it will have all the SB including 06-57. That way you can ammo up when at the stealership. Good luck and keep us posted. Do not give up!

Download 2000-2006 Insight Service Manual PDF and Others

[Hybrid-Battery-Repair]

Bring the service bulletins with you and tell them to reference SB10-061 which tells them how to look up the warranty for the car electronically.

Originally Posted by Joeburmeister

Hate to hijack this thread but I just want to post my issue.

I purchased my automatic 2003 Honda Insight (original invoice date 12/29/2002) with 37K miles just last October. Supposedly, it was own by very elderly gentleman who hardly ever drove it (the tires were dry rotted when i purchased the car). He had to sell it because he was no longer able to drive on his own.

Anyways, I started a new job that required me to commute 90 miles each way.Hence, why I purchased the Insight. The car now has 48K and i typically get 48-50 mpg (all highway driving at 70-85 mph). Just recently,I started to notice the battery charge indicator would 'jump'. Also, it wouldn't charge up as fast after going up a long hill.Today, I received the dreaded IMA light for the 1st time (No CE light). The car drives fine. It charges/assists like normal. The only problem is that the battery depletes faster, and it takes a long time to get it charged backup.

I stopped by my Honda Dealer today after work, and they couldn't do anything for me today (it was like 5:45pm) and scheduled me an appointment for Monday. They did say the battery has an 8 year/80K mile warranty, so according to them, my warranty has expired. They told me it was okay to drive it, although I may notice a drop in my fuel economy as the vehicle is running mainly on gas, with very little assist,if any at all, from the battery.

Can you all point me to a link where it states the battery has an 100K/10 year warranty? Is that extension only valid in CA? I live in South Carolina. Why would the dealer state the battery only comes with an 8/80 warranty? Should I take it to another Honda dealer? They did say it may not be battery - it could be the computer card that is faulty. They won't know until they perform some diagnostics.

[Omniren]

Not to bring back an old topic on the forum but I recently had my IMA light come on with the same issue as the OP (P1447). I can still do Assist and Regen without any issues but my SOC is bouncing around like an undecisive child. I read from one of the posts here that it is "Battery Deteriation" but I also read somewhere that this can be fixed if the battery is re-calibrated. My question is, what should I do at this point? I guess I need some guidance on what I can do to try to fix this. I know my car is out of warranty (2000 Insight with 110,000 miles) and the previous owner had the dealership do a warranty on the car in 2008. So I shouldn't be eligible for warranty repair. Will driving my car in its current condition damage anything other than the battery? Can the dealership calibrate my batteries?

[Eli]

There isn't much you can do except pull the negative battery cable to reset the systems(recalibrate). And replace/rebuild the battery of course.

Doing this might last a day, a week, a month or more.. Just depends on how bad your battery is.

Doing multiple consecutive resets may help a little, this is like a force charge. Wait 5 minutes between each one to let the voltage settle.

[Hybrid-Battery-Repair]

Originally Posted by Omniren

I know my car is out of warranty (2000 Insight with 110,000 miles) and the previous owner had the dealership do a warranty on the car in 2008.

Yet another 2008 warranty battery that has failed.

[Omniren]

Originally Posted by Eli

There isn't much you can do except pull the negative battery cable to reset the systems(recalibrate). And replace/rebuild the battery of course.

Doing this might last a day, a week, a month or more.. Just depends on how bad your battery is.

Doing multiple consecutive resets may help a little, this is like a force charge. Wait 5 minutes between each one to let the voltage settle.

I guess I will give that a shot. My SOC guage has been weird these past few months. I'm actually surprised it took that long for the car to throw the IMA light. Thanks.

[aisbell]

Originally Posted by Hybrid-Battery-Repair

Yet another 2008 warranty battery that has failed.

Mine is a 2008 warranty battery pack as well. So far, so good. In fact, it's far stronger than my previous 2 battery packs despite my storing my car for 2 6-month periods and 1 3-month period. I attribute this to balance charging that I started after it had been stored for 3 months (but not after the first 6 month's storage). I'll be pulling it out of storage in a couple of weeks, will balance charge it, and then will keep my fingers crossed that all remains well. Maybe I got lucky with a decent warranty replacement battery pack.