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Old 11-21-2012, 04:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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My EPS code 17 indicates an open circuit on the ground (white wire between the torque sensor connector (7P) on the rack, and the EPS control unit connector B (14P) inside down under the passengers right foot area.) I pulled it all apart today and saw that someone tried to repair this before using a seperate wire, and not properly attempted. Upon removal of the battery and battery tray, I ohm-metered the white wire and sure enough it was open. I unwound the black electrical tape and pulled off the plastic corrogated loom. There were a couple chew spots from a mouse. I pulled out the last repair attempt, and soldered and heat shrunk 5 connections in 3 different locations (all were chewed through.) All done. Tested good closed (white) ground wire now, but the EPS code (17) is still stored. These codes appearently don't erase themselves once repaired. No power steering. So short of buying a Honda PGM or going to a dealer, is there any way to short pins in the OBD2 port to clear the EPS stored code? Or any other method to clear EPS stored codes?
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:34 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Interesting! And loss of 12v or is your IMA good? My IMA is bad and totally disconnected. Speedometer not working and then EPS light come on and lose power steering. I have a short somewhere that is driving us nuts to find.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:13 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm going to take the EPS control unit out of one of my other Insights and see if it solves the problem. I won't be able to do it until next week. I will let you know how it goes. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Good thinking! I'll try the same! Thanks!
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EDIT: With my wiring correctly repaired now, and still pulling the EPS 17 code, I contacted Mike D. on how to erase. He said in order to clear all stored EPS and ABS codes, you simply pull the negative lead off your 12v battery for 30 seconds. Well, my battery and battery box were out for hours while I repaired my wiring, and once all back together, I was still getting the same 17 blink code. But I knew that specific wire (and all the wires) were good now from one end to the other after repairing and testing with my ohm meter. Thanks Pennyduke for the suggestion of swapping out the control modules! I tried the module from my 02, and sure enough, the module was the problem! Power steering is now back, and no more EPS code! The previous owner told me his Honda dealer told him he needed a whole new rack system and wanted to charge him $2k! So he drove the car for a long time with no EPS. Don't believe everything dealers tell you. It's all about how much $$$ in service sales they can sell.....

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Old 11-27-2012, 09:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Chris, I'm glad to hear that that worked for you. I'm spending too much time in the woods this week hunting. I should be able to switch mine at the end of the week. That's one of the benefits of owning more than one Insight. Thanks
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I think I screwed up. I took the PCU off my other 2000 and put it on the one with no power steering. The EPS light went off for a second then came back on. I disconnected the battery for an hour and tried it again and still no PS. So I put the PCU back on the other car with the good PS and it now has no PS. What did I do wrong. Now I have 2 cars with no power steering.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Blown fuse, one under the hood.?
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:56 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Does the 12v battery need to be disconnected when switching the PCU's on both cars. I hope I didn't fry the good one.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I have two of these modules if they are needed.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Jeff, How much for both?
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