I did this on another car today. I could not properly complete the repair without removing the a-pillar trim. . I have edited my "how-to" thread to state this fact. Bummer, I guess the $40 per side of clips should be part of the budget for this repair. Thankfully for me today, they were a stocking item at my local dealer
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Originally Posted by juntjoo
Jeff, I should ask, do you think it's absolutely necessary to go that far into the front of the seam even though my leak is only at the hatch? Common sense tells me I should re-seal it all the way to that hole you discovered, tho I'm not sure I have any holes up there since as I mentioned mine only leaks at the hatch. maybe it's just something I might have to do again in the future, or not in which case $80 on new clips would be a waste. hmm...
I think to do it right the a-pillar trim needs to come off. The one I did today had the "missing calking" from the factory. The gap is toward the front. In order for it to be water tight the calking and a couple coats of touch up paint are mandatory and the only way to seal & paint it foreword enough that is is below the seam is to pull the pillar trim.
You could try it without pulling the trim, then if it leaks still do it a second time with the trim pulled. After trying today, I don't think that is do-able though.
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My 2000 has all the leaks described here and in jeff652's informative thread, Roof Seam Leak Repair (NOT wet seat belts) [pics] , and I've got all the clips and caulk, looking for the time to do it...
But I was perplexed by the fact that the water I would bail out on the passenger side was green/blue. I thought maybe the previous owner (an elderly friend of mine) had spilled something like soda or something. Finally realized, after trying to get the rear windshield sprayer to work, that mice had chewed off the supply hose which runs along the passenger side rocker, and I was just pumping the washer fluid onto the floor...
Cars can be so much fun.
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The washer fluid hose for the rear window runs along the passenger door seal and up the passenger pillar. It's a semi transparent white line on my 2002. You might see if it has a hole in it or has become disconnected. That might explain the green/blue color. Never mind I see you found it already.
Found a wet seatbelt had became a frozen seatbelt. Stuck reel good. A few sharp hauls broke it loose. After ice comes flying out reel action was Ok. Parked with it unreeled/draped to dry.
Did it myself and took some photos - whoever suggested using a wooden spoon to remove the trim had a good idea
(although i dont know whether we will want to cook with it again!). The old clips were difficult to get off so ended up
sawing part way through with a hacksaw at each end so could use a small screwdriver to release the clip.
The hole in the second photo is where the infamous white clip goes.
I replaced all the white plastic clips which cost £22 (approx $40)
Cheers
John
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No they are not. The rivets are for the inner steel clips which are 'reusable'. They are not the white plastic single-use clips.
This pic shows the difference clearly:
The back of the rivets you see are the gold colored steel clips on the left of the white plastic clips.
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okay, now its my turn. the pics so far should be enough but I'll throw mine in too.
CHECK to make sure your leak isnt in the seam close to the hatch as mine is -so you wont waste money breaking the white clips.
I doubt that the hatch area seam break is your entire leak. The large white clip with the metal bracket in it is the most common one to leak. If you look closely it is in a small depression and water accumulates there and leaks in. I replace that one and add some Hondabond to make sure it won't leak again in the future.
I am talking about the white clip on the bottom left in this photo:
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