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Old 10-31-2016, 04:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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"Longer plates" doesn't mean more material. It's simply one of the ways to lower resistance (it lowers "current density", one component of 'IR')... The reason I say they probably have less is mainly because I've discharged aftermarket cells and the most I ever discharged was 6200mAh, more typical was 5800...
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Just wanted to post a follow-up to my pursuit.

I contacted BumbleBee Batteries in Gresham (Portland), OR. Their new batteries currently list for $2,095 (plus $500 core charge, if applicable). By appointment only, BumbleBee will replace the IMA battery in Gen1 Insights for a flat rate of $300. Given that I am less than 200 miles away from Portland, the $300 installation fee is more than fair, especially since there is no sales tax in Oregon. The sales tax savings alone (no core charge required), nearly $250 in my case, will cover the fuel costs and motel room for a night required for making the trip!

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Old 11-03-2016, 11:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Pretty much a no-brainer. You avoid the core charge, you save the sales tax, and you don't pay for shipping. And you aren't stuck with a crappy Honda battery.

"While you're in there" I recommend installing a grid charger harness. A mild grid charging routine will keep the new battery balanced. I charge mine every 6 months or so.

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Old 11-07-2016, 01:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Again, have you tried to order it? I have never heard of someone successfully placing an order online. A few have tried, but they fail either due to refusal to ship or some other "policy" that is outside the norm. Some have said they can only ship to dealers.

Furthermore, there is still ambiguity concerning if Honda packs are made with new cells or are reconditions.

I encourage you to call them or do live chat and confirm:

1) Warranty and how you utilize the warranty.
2) Actual cost to get it to you.
3) New or reconditioned cells.
4) What Honda has done to improve the horrible quality of their battery packs since those made for the 06-11 model years?

Even better, use Majestic as they are a preferred online part source:

Honda Automotive Parts

$1320.45 + $500 core charge + much lower shipping. For me, it's $1,866.75 OTD INCLUDING core charge.

EDIT: to be clear, I wouldn't consider purchasing even for that price unless #3 is "New" and #4 was adequately addressed.
I decided to check for myself. Here is Majestic's response:

"Sorry we do not ship ima battery."

So that seemingly amazing price is completely and totally meaningless.
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Thanks for checking on that, S Keith!

I've pretty much decided I'm going to get the car down to Portland somehow and have BumbleBee install a new battery of their manufacture. Like Sam stated, "Pretty much a no-brainer."

Thanks again to all!

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It's been three months or so since I first had the IMA/Check Engine lights illuminated. After 'resuscitating' the battery a couple times, it is now dead for good. When I start the car now, it is via the 12 V battery, sounding like a Model T. As I mentioned previously, it is my intent to drive the car to Portland (~200 miles) to Bumble Bee for battery replacement. I've seen much on both sides of the discussion on the web, but would like to know from someone 'in the know' in this forum if driving that far with a bad IMA will otherwise damage the car? Thanks!

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Your only major issue is if the 12V is still charging.

If the 12V light is off most of the time, and you put one of these in your power port to monitor your 12V:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I can't imagine you'll have any troubles.

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Thanks, Steve!

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Sam already suggested grid charging in his first response, and it appeared you had already made up your mind to replace the battery. But since it's been several months and you continued to limp along on the old battery with resets, it's worth reiterating that you can likely get quite a bit more use out of the pack with grid charging maintenance.

If you're already set on just swapping the pack for many more years of trouble-free service, that's that. But if you don't mind putting in a little elbow grease, learning the different options for grid charging may be worth pursuing.
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not like grid charging is very difficult once you have everything in place, but you do lose the ability to drive the car for a day every few months.
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