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Old 08-06-2005, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I had new tires put on my Insight this week (picked up a road hazard and it punctured the sidewall) and the dealer did a wheel alignement. Here's the results that were printed out for me. Does all this look ok?

Camber
front min = -1.00
front nominal =0.00
front max=1.00
left Actual=.2
right actual = .5

Caster
front min = 1.00
front nominal =2.00
front max=3.00
left Actual=-----
right actual = -----

Toe
front min = -1.00
front nominal =0.00
front max=1.00
left Actual=.9 mm
right actual = .5 mm

Cross camber actual = -.2
Cross caster actual = ------
Total toe = 1.4 mm (min=-2.00, mominal = 0, max = 2.00)

Look ok? Thanks.
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Old 08-07-2005, 11:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Questions on wheel alignment

Since you asked...

There's a "tolerance" for any precision adjustment. The best alignment will set the actual readings to as close to the center of this tolerance as is humanly possible. The only adjustable setting on an Insight (without some type of added adjuster) is Toe. And it looks like your alignment didn't even include a caster measurement. While this isn't easily adjustable and there are several other second order alignment specs not necessary to check, caster is a bottom of the rung first order in regard to tire wear and should always be checked as part of a _basic_ alignment. Also rear toe needs to be measured. Don't see it here either IMO this places your job in the sloppy category, sorry.

More significantly your total Toe measures 1.4mm which is too far from the middle of tolerance (right and left individual toe is added) and will contribute to premature tire wear. Which is why most street cars have an alignment performed, to prevent uneven tire wear and premature replacement.

Since what your paying for is the skill and accuracy of the tech and his alignment machine it looks like you got neither. Usually a second chance is a reasonable thing to do but in cases of alignment when the printout clearly shows such deficiencies I'd demand a refund and take my business elsewhere.

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Thanks for the reply. That's what I was thinking too. They probably just checked and said it was in spec, so left it as it was.
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Could someone with a shop manual double check the recommend min and max toe for the front? Just want to make sure the right specs were used.

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As picky as I was with your posted results you don't think I'd miss whether or not the tolerance given was correct or not. (Its correct, 0 +-2mm)

And they didn't simply put it on the machine and saw it was in spec. They didn't even _measure_ two other important specs, rear Toe and Caster

Unless your holding out on me... :P


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