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Old 11-07-2010, 05:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi to all.
I'm Pietro from Italy, i have a insight 2 with 10000 miles.
On the page 311 of the manual of the insight, there are a descrition of the problem, it's the second time that i have this problem.

Ingnition off, ignition on problem solved.

Anyone with my problem?

Solution?

Exuse me for the english!
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm at 35,000 miles (56,000km) and have not seen anything similar. Please give more information with regards to driving style, enviromental issues, any symptoms besides indicator lights, etc.

From the manual page 311:

LX
These indicators on the instrument
panel show which position the shift
lever is in.
The ‘‘D’’ indicator comes on for a
few seconds when you turn the
ignition switch to the ON (II)
position. If it flashes while driving (in
any shift position), it indicates a
possible problem in the transmission.

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If the malfunction indicator lamp
comes on along with the ‘‘D’’
indicator, there is a problem with the
automatic transmission control
system. Avoid rapid acceleration, and
have the transmission checked by
your dealer as soon as possible.
When the ‘‘D’’ indicator warns of a
possible problem with the
transmission, you will see a ‘‘CHECK
TRANSMISSION’’ message on the
multi-information display.

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Old 11-07-2010, 11:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If the malfunction indicator lamp
comes on along with the ‘‘D’’
indicator, there is a problem with the
automatic transmission control
system. Avoid rapid acceleration, and
have the transmission checked by
your dealer as soon as possible.
When the ‘‘D’’ indicator warns of a
possible problem with the
transmission, you will see a ‘‘CHECK
TRANSMISSION’’ message on the
multi-information display.

My message is exact this up!
I have a normal urban drive, my mileage is 6l*100 km.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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My message is exact this up!
I have a normal urban drive, my mileage is 6l*100 km.
Yes, I just copied the text right from the manual. I haven't had this happen myself.

Have you noticed anything wrong with the car besides the error messages that are displayed? Does the transmission seem to be "slipping". Do you press the accelerator and the engine RPM's increase but the car doesn't seem to move like it should?

Have you noticed any leaks under the car after it's parked for a while?

Have you checked the CVT fluid to make sure the level isn't low?

Has it been especially cold where you are?
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi to all.
I'm Pietro from Italy, i have a insight 2 with 10000 miles.
On the page 311 of the manual of the insight, there are a descrition of the problem, it's the second time that i have this problem.

Ingnition off, ignition on problem solved.
Have someone check for OBDII codes. You should have a dealer check it. If there is something wrong, you do not want to void your warranty by driving the car while it is reporting errors.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i have controlled the level, and is over the hot signal.
This is a problem?
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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i have controlled the level, and is over the hot signal.
This is a problem?
I would be more concerned if the level was low as compared to a little high.

I agree with JimJohnD above; get the car back to the dealer and have it checked before any damage is done.

Please keep us informed. This is actually the one area of the car I have concerns about. I had a Suburu Justy once that had the CVT fail and I haven't trusted them since.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Please keep us informed. This is actually the one area of the car I have concerns about. I had a Suburu Justy once that had the CVT fail and I haven't trusted them since.
This car has a far better transmission than the Justy. The Justy had a clutch pack known for requiring routine replacement as early as every 30k miles with nothing other than the 'Clutch Temp' light for diagnostics. We have CVTs here with plenty of mileage with very few failures.

Original poster: Go to the dealer you have a warranty and they should look at the car immediately. Fill us in with what they say.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:36 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yesterday I was the mechanic of my dealership.
He connected the computer to the machine, downloaded the mistake, and took the code with this code is linked on a honda website, and downloaded the verification process.
Clear the error by a machine system, Done
2, proceed in D at 60 km / h for about 1 minute (four times), and did not appear any error
3 to park your car and press the brake and throttle for 8 seconds and see that the turns do not exceed 3500 rpm, made my did not exceed 2000 (try it yourself but I recommend parking brake)
4 steps for 1 minute at 60 mph and see if the engine speed is not between 2350 and 2950, it is an intermittent failure to replace CVT oil and try again.
The fourth round I did not happen a lot because my car was between 1500 and 2000 rpm for 60 mph, the mechanic argued that if the turns were lower, the test was successfully passed, while the procedure was clearly stated that if honda was between 2350 and 2950 was all ok (or better to change oil and try again) otherwise replace the CVT.

However I have made the whole process and eventually went home with my car and the CVT oil renewed.

We hope that the matter will end here!
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:19 AM   #10 (permalink)
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All else fails change the fluid. Sounds like a solution.

The acceleration with the brakes on is a stall test. Generally this is done to test the torque converter. Interestingly enough the i2 doesnt have one.

What exactly was the first indication? Did the D blink while driving vs just key on? Did the screen display a message?
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