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Old 02-10-2019, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looks like there’s a new tire out there that fits and is better rated then the Bridgestones
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...tnum=665TR4QT5


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Old 02-10-2019, 06:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There has been talk of these Vredsteins already and it has been all good. User comments are that they do better in snow, slush and maybe rain. I think that they are longer lasting per the few users on the board. The good thing is that there is a choice now, If it's Dutch tire, and it is, you can be pretty sure it is good in rain. They will be what I will next put on my Insight.
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That's NOT a LRR tire. Expect a 5-10 mpg drop.
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"The tire also has 1) "extremely low rolling resistance," which qualifies the tire as green under European Union tire labeling requirements"

Better than nothing, but probably a loss compared to re92s
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"The tire also has 1) "extremely low rolling resistance,"
Where do you see that? Unless they just added it recently, the only measured attributes on tires sold in the USA are Treadwear Traction Temperature.
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Well it looks like it’s got a higher tread wear rating 400 vs 260 for the Bridgestone tire and better all around ratings as far as testing goes than the Bridgestone tire

Looks like a better tire to me


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Color me skeptical but there have been many “better tires” that fit over the years

But in every case you loose fuel economy.

If better is wear and handling go for it

If better is fuel economy, it may not be the tire linked
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Where do you see that? Unless they just added it recently, the only measured attributes on tires sold in the USA are Treadwear Traction Temperature.
https://www.moderntiredealer.com/new...with-quatrac-5

https://www.vredestein.co.uk/car-suv...-season-tyres/
Also mentions lrr as tested in European markets.

Actual rating sticker for another size... I doubt this particular size is an outlier like the Potenzas are.

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Where do you see that? Unless they just added it recently, the only measured attributes on tires sold in the USA are Treadwear Traction Temperature.
If you Google "Vredstein Quatrac rolling resistance" you will get a lot of hits. They carriy the European "Green" designation and have "very low rolling resistance." Its superiority in traction and wear make a small MPG hit worthwhile for the safety they provide. YMMV
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The Insight was fitted with other than RE92 Bridgestones in Europe. I have RE92 on my car and their grip level is too low for Europe. That's why it doesn't wear a E-sign on its sidewall. You'll notice a small hit in mpg but IMHO it's worth the higher grip every other tire offers.
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