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Old 05-31-2019, 07:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rust-bucket Insight. Run away?

I'm looking at an Insight that spent a significant amount of time in the salty mid-west. Everything that is made of iron is rusting. There is evidence of both fuel and brake lines being patched. Suspension bits, engine bits, everything is rusty.

The car needs a bunch of other work to make it nice, most of which doesn't concern me (apart from the cost). Anyone with experience with a car like this? Should I run away or not be too concerned?

Here's a lousy picture. Not sure if the link will work.

https://images.craigslist.org/00k0k_...E_1200x900.jpg

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Old 05-31-2019, 08:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Considering you have to travel to get it or have it shipped. Do you know if it can make the trip? If it's salty midwest then your looking at probably 1k miles each way. I sent you a pm with some Insights in Florida.
This is a member's Beautiful car, from of all places the salty Mid-west. It's a gem for sure.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Um. No offense intended here, but you are just seeing some iron oxide on the heads of the bolts. That is not a big deal at all.

The insight is aluminum. It doesn't corrode. I purchased my car SPECIFICALLY because it won't ever rust out, or, if it does, it will take decades.

Yes, fuel lines and brake lines are steel, and can rust, but I coat mine with Boshield T9 every year to help protect them.

You are coming across as someone who is super ignorant about cars, has only leased brand new cars, and sees some slight surface rust on the heads of bolts as a 'rusty' car.

If that is a rusty car, I would hate for you to come to Wisco and see what WE call rusty cars. This is not a rusty car imho.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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$2500 car.

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Old 05-31-2019, 09:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Um, no I've never leased a car and I understand what an Insight is. I've nut and bolt restored cars and replaced all kinds of rusty steel parts under a car, straighten and repaired frames. I used to work on beach cars in Florida and grew up in Indiana so I know what corrosion looks looks like. It's a lot of work. I guess my point was why travel when you can find one locally, with possibly fewer corrosion issues. I've only ever purchased 2 brand new cars in my life. I saw the slight corrosion on the crappy picture, but you could also be looking at fuel lines braked lines rear suspension, front suspension. I will FREELY admit everyone on this site knows more than I on this car. I had 2 thru my dealerships and now I'm interested in having one and researching all I can. But I'll throw down with anyone on automotive knowledge. I appreciate we all are entitled to our opinion. Offense taken. Check my profile, which is what you should've done before throwing me under the bus.

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I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the OP. Calm your tits.
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Sometimes it is beneficial to name the person the conversation is directed to at the begining of the post. It keeps the anger down a little.

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Of course the body is aluminum and plastic. However, every bolt is steel, every screw, every line, suspension parts, etc. I was looking for advice from someone who had direct experience with this type of car. That's all.

This car has already had failures in the fuel and brake lines. Use that as a metric for how rusty it is. The ABS module is covered in flaky rust. What I could see of the rear suspension arms were rusty. Other engine accessories were heavily rusted (what was perhaps a timing chain tensioner? Front pass. side of engine). This wasn't just some surface rust on some bolts.

Saying "no offense" before insulting someone by calling them "super ignorant" does not make it better.
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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ADDvanced, like to come on forum and spout bad information, consider himself some type of expert and plagiarize information to try to make himself appear like he knows how to do things when he does not.

He had a problem with his car and it took him almost 2 years to read the codes and post them. He couldnít understand how a code for a temperature sending unit could cause all the problems. I posted why and the fix, not really for him, but to help all the other members of the forum. I explained how difficult the access was to the sending unit, he said he knew where it was located. Later he came back on here and whines about how hard it was to access.

In another post, regarding body repair he told someone they didnít know what they were doing about body repair. He posted quite a comprehensive post about the body and paint process. I read it and thought wow, thatís pretty spot on. Iíve been doing body and paint repair now for about 37 years, Iím ASE Certified in body, paint, frame and a few other areas. Later, ADD got a new compressor and posted asking questions about painting his car and did he need to use primer?
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Any posts from ADD need to be considered as bad advise or misinformation.

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Old 05-31-2019, 11:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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That car is no more worse than the one I own from the picture. The major issues you will run into is having to go SLOW with taking the bolts out and you will have to replace a bunch of them. The steel bolts will be locked into the aluminum parts so you will need to walk the bolts out instead of just pulling them out. Erm be mindful of the knock sensor it brakes if someone near you farts. It's easy to build brake line and cheap to do fuel lines. If you can change a brake caliper, you can do those repairs easily. If you have never built brake lines ask for a roll of the copper brake line, it's more forgiving than the steel line by far but twice as expensive. You can rent the brake line tool from any parts store. Fuel lines can use brake line just match the size or the 6is dollar a foot fuel injection line just make sure you secure it. Having that said if it's mechanicly sound ish, and it's not to expensive I'd do it. YouTube how to build the lines and take about 4 two inch pices of the roll and practice first.
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