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Old 06-28-2019, 11:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Haha! Searching for ceramic window tint to cut down on the greenhouse effect I ran across this! Look at the customer pics....


https://vvividshop.com/collections/w...nt=33778038481
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Haha! Searching for ceramic window tint to cut down on the greenhouse effect I ran across this! Look at the customer pics....
Two things from personal experience:
1. The cerramic window film will not lower the interior temperature of an Insight. I fell for this notion and had film installed. I did tests of two identical Insights, one with film - one without, parked parallel to each other. The interior temperature of the two was nearly identical. Apparently, sun heats the film which heats the glass, which heats the car. After a couple of hours in the sun, you can lay your hand on the film covered glass and definitely feel it is hotter than the clear glass. I recommend reflective window shades, or a silvered car cover.

2. Most states set limits on how dark the film can be. Be sure you understand your state law. If it is too dark, it is an open invitation to be stopped by the police.

A final observation, from the number of crappy film jobs one sees on the streets it seems clear that it is hard to install correctly. If you want it to look good, hire a professional or do a lot of reading on how to do it right.

Looks great on a Citrus, but totally ineffective in controlling interior heat
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Two things from personal experience:
I did tests of two identical Insights, one with film - one without, parked parallel to each other. The interior temperature of the two was nearly identical. Apparently, sun heats the film which heats the glass, which heats the car. After a couple of hours in the sun, you can lay your hand on the film covered glass and definitely feel it is hotter than the clear glass. I recommend reflective window shades, or a silvered car cover.
I remember debating someone about this. Instead of heating stuff in the car which heats the car you heat the tint which heats the air in the car and the glass through MECHANICAL contact (atoms shaking atoms, to put it visually.)

I wonder how much cooler a car with a white or silvery mylar "emergency blanket" draped over everything in the back (leaving the rear view unobstructed, for example, to reduce heat load while driving somewhere with a lot of sunshine) would be over a car without said sheet.
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If only one could chrome wrap windows without annoying the heck out of everyone on the road lol.

Although of all the cars I've been in, the Insight stays the coolest for some reason. Maybe some factory coating on the windows that helps? Even the Prius, which has some sort of factory coating, isn't any cooler than my Civic was, but the Insight stays relatively cool inside compared to other cars. No tint or anything.
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Two things from personal experience:
1. The cerramic window film will not lower the interior temperature of an Insight. I fell for this notion and had film installed. I did tests of two identical Insights, one with film - one without, parked parallel to each other. The interior temperature of the two was nearly identical. Apparently, sun heats the film which heats the glass, which heats the car. After a couple of hours in the sun, you can lay your hand on the film covered glass and definitely feel it is hotter than the clear glass. I recommend reflective window shades, or a silvered car cover.

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INteresting. Here's somebody else that makes the same claim. And he used the expensive stuff....

https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forum...nce-cabin-temp
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I wonder what this perforated film would do? I would probably just do the hatch glass. I don't have a rearview mirror and only use the wing mirrors, which is legal where I live. I'm tall and the rearview mirror obstruted my view out the front, plus I've driven trucks and trailers most of my life so I'm comfortable with wing mirrors anyway.

https://vvividshop.com/products/one-...cy-window-film

This stuff comes in white and black. Obviously white would be better for heat....

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INteresting. Here's somebody else that makes the same claim. And he used the expensive stuff....
I used the expensive stuff also - a nationally known brand professionally installed.

I feel kinda foolish having fallen for this ruse. I have always believed that a product doesn't really have to perform, it is enough just to convince a large market that it does. Yet, I fell for it. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON FILM!
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So what happened to "Whose car is this"?
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So what happened to "Whose car is this"?
haha!

Yeah that got derailed....
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Yeah, went off the rails, but it evolved into something worthwhile, so I'm going to retitle it
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