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Old 10-09-2017, 04:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I can only enviously look over to the GEN1 forums and what they tinkered there. There are some mods that I would like to have in my GEN2, but I lack time and engineering capacities to develop it myself.

Anyone done a conversion to employ the Auto-Off for longer than the prescribed 30 seconds? The 12V battery should be able to feed the car for longer than the measly 30 seconds. Since I spend a long time queueing waiting for congested intersections to pass, I can see the fuel consumption rise while waiting. The first cycle, the Auto-Stop engages, but then - crawling up to the intersection - the engine restarts way before I move and since I never exceed 12 km/h the Auto-Stop never resets and the engine continues to run. That's mad.

Also, one should be able to engage/disengage the IMA assist/charge. There are stretches where I KNOW the IMA is useless and it will only give me an empty battery which I then need to have recharged on petrol and just when it's full, I get a long downhill stretch where I could have used gravity...

Unfortunately, Honda decided to discontinue lean burn for the GEN2....
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know retepsnikrep has been tinkering with some gen2 Civic MCM/BCM/ECM stuff and thought it might be applicable or helpful for gen2 Insights.

I think he put our a call for cars to tinker with or a junkyard computer set from England-proximate owners but no one stepped up. Maybe that can be you .
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Once I have moved house and got setup, then yes some of my HCH2 research may well be applicable to a Gen2. Watch this space and keep your eye on the hch2 stuff.
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Have you got all the software updates from Honda for the car? There's a recall update they have to perform for free, and usually they do the other two software updates for free as well. My car has been running great since getting those.

Also, Auto-Stop lasts way longer (+5 minutes) if you know you're going to come to a stop and you press the Off button for the climate control before you get down to about 24 mph.

It is also possible to wire this car with a full-regen brake switch like you can do with the G1 Insight.
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Been at the local Honda dealer for CVT fluid change and checking for updates. They said everything is ok. No, I do not have the A/C on and no, I only have the fan on lowest and not on any defrost/demist setting - just straight through.
Still, the car switches off nicely, but only for about 30'ish seconds. It could, without lights, fan, radio - stay on Auto Off for hours.
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Try pressing the off button and see what it does.

What year is your car?
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Don't have an off-button. 2010 Gen2. Eco is on, green plant in dash is lit.
A/C is explicitly off. No need for it here in Ireland. Only in very wet winter days, when the car just fogs up. Summers are rarely hot enough to warrant A/C use.
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Sorry I meant the off button for climate. Like, try turning climate completely off, no fan, nothing before you come to a stop.
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OK, will switch everything completely off. Even the fan. Will try tomorrow on the commute.
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Affirm. Hit the climate OFF button (under the round Auto button) well before coming to a stop, like when still going 15 mph or faster.
AutoStop will come on and last for minutes on end, even if you activate the fan again once AutoStop is lighting up.
It apparently determines how long AutoStop should last when invoking it and won't deviate no matter what you do with the controls after that.

During AutoStop the hybrid battery and DC-DC converter keep feeding the 12V system. So it does not run down your 12V battery at all.
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