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Old 05-27-2019, 11:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default First Trans Fluid Change at 118K

2012 Insight EX

Owned since new, always garage kept. Had oil burning issue come up at just under 70K. Performed oil consumption test through dealer and was burning 1 quart every 1,240 miles. Honda approved SB 15-015 and dealer replaced piston rings, pins and all 8 spark plugs, among other things as part of the service bulletin at 72K. That solved oil burning, but it's had a small oil leak ever since, dealer has: 74K replaced front crankshaft oil seal; 84K resealed oil pan gasket; 92K replaced valve cover gasket and spark plug tube seals. Still a small leak, not noticeable on dipstick but it still spots my garage floor and makes it a little messy under the engine. Received related extended warranty from Honda for up to 8 years an unlimited mileage. I've lived with the oil leak now up to 118K, considering whether to pursue through dealer/warranty.

Aside from that issue, it's been a fantastic vehicle. Bought as a commuter, 350 miles a week on 'back roads' so usually between 45-60 MPH. Some surface streets, stop and go, but it's been driven pretty easy as a commuter, and we used it for a few long trips prior to having the 3rd kid. I'll admit, aside from oil changes, tires (on 3rd set, 2nd of Yokohama Avid Ascends, which are decent - replaced original Bridestone Ecopia which got to 45K miles), and front brakes (original pads lasted until 90K, had Big O install their Wagners - hated them from the start - and just replaced those pads/warped rotors with Powerstop Evolution, which feel good so far) I've kind of ignored any other maintenance items until recently. Came back to the forum and didn't take long to realize I should have been more attentive to the CVT Fluid changes.

Have seen real world MPG 48-50 commute, 45-46 freeway @ 75MPH and 43-44 around town. Recently commute MPG is down around 45-46. I had my brake fluid flushed with the new pad/rotor install, and I just did the drain/refill of the CVT fluid - see pics of the drain plug and the old/new fluid. I previously performed the CVT reset procedure (37 MPH then coast to 5 MPH) and that had a noticeable effect on improving smooth acceleration. Have only driven it about 10-15 miles with the new fluid but it felt better.

Now considering inline CVT filter change at next interval - will likely change again at 2nd oil change. Engine coolant is full and smells/looks fine, so not planning to change. Also planning to purchase new OEM rear shocks from Bernardi's. Considering new 12V battery since it is still original.

Any input on overall maintenance I should be attentive to? Comments on Trans fluid??
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Old 06-03-2019, 05:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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2012 Insight EX

Owned since new, always garage kept. Had oil burning issue come up at just under 70K. Performed oil consumption test through dealer and was burning 1 quart every 1,240 miles. Honda approved SB 15-015 and dealer replaced piston rings, pins and all 8 spark plugs, among other things as part of the service bulletin at 72K. That solved oil burning, but it's had a small oil leak ever since, dealer has: 74K replaced front crankshaft oil seal; 84K resealed oil pan gasket; 92K replaced valve cover gasket and spark plug tube seals. Still a small leak, not noticeable on dipstick but it still spots my garage floor and makes it a little messy under the engine. Received related extended warranty from Honda for up to 8 years an unlimited mileage. I've lived with the oil leak now up to 118K, considering whether to pursue through dealer/warranty.

Aside from that issue, it's been a fantastic vehicle. Bought as a commuter, 350 miles a week on 'back roads' so usually between 45-60 MPH. Some surface streets, stop and go, but it's been driven pretty easy as a commuter, and we used it for a few long trips prior to having the 3rd kid. I'll admit, aside from oil changes, tires (on 3rd set, 2nd of Yokohama Avid Ascends, which are decent - replaced original Bridestone Ecopia which got to 45K miles), and front brakes (original pads lasted until 90K, had Big O install their Wagners - hated them from the start - and just replaced those pads/warped rotors with Powerstop Evolution, which feel good so far) I've kind of ignored any other maintenance items until recently. Came back to the forum and didn't take long to realize I should have been more attentive to the CVT Fluid changes.

Have seen real world MPG 48-50 commute, 45-46 freeway @ 75MPH and 43-44 around town. Recently commute MPG is down around 45-46. I had my brake fluid flushed with the new pad/rotor install, and I just did the drain/refill of the CVT fluid - see pics of the drain plug and the old/new fluid. I previously performed the CVT reset procedure (37 MPH then coast to 5 MPH) and that had a noticeable effect on improving smooth acceleration. Have only driven it about 10-15 miles with the new fluid but it felt better.

Now considering inline CVT filter change at next interval - will likely change again at 2nd oil change. Engine coolant is full and smells/looks fine, so not planning to change. Also planning to purchase new OEM rear shocks from Bernardi's. Considering new 12V battery since it is still original.

Any input on overall maintenance I should be attentive to? Comments on Trans fluid??
Change the sparkplugs yet?
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2012 Insight EX

Owned since new, always garage kept. Had oil burning issue come up at just under 70K. Performed oil consumption test through dealer and was burning 1 quart every 1,240 miles. Honda approved SB 15-015 and dealer replaced piston rings, pins and all 8 spark plugs, among other things as part of the service bulletin at 72K. That solved oil burning, but it's had a small oil leak ever since, dealer has: 74K replaced front crankshaft oil seal; 84K resealed oil pan gasket; 92K replaced valve cover gasket and spark plug tube seals. Still a small leak, not noticeable on dipstick but it still spots my garage floor and makes it a little messy under the engine. Received related extended warranty from Honda for up to 8 years an unlimited mileage. I've lived with the oil leak now up to 118K, considering whether to pursue through dealer/warranty.

Aside from that issue, it's been a fantastic vehicle. Bought as a commuter, 350 miles a week on 'back roads' so usually between 45-60 MPH. Some surface streets, stop and go, but it's been driven pretty easy as a commuter, and we used it for a few long trips prior to having the 3rd kid. I'll admit, aside from oil changes, tires (on 3rd set, 2nd of Yokohama Avid Ascends, which are decent - replaced original Bridestone Ecopia which got to 45K miles), and front brakes (original pads lasted until 90K, had Big O install their Wagners - hated them from the start - and just replaced those pads/warped rotors with Powerstop Evolution, which feel good so far) I've kind of ignored any other maintenance items until recently. Came back to the forum and didn't take long to realize I should have been more attentive to the CVT Fluid changes.

Have seen real world MPG 48-50 commute, 45-46 freeway @ 75MPH and 43-44 around town. Recently commute MPG is down around 45-46. I had my brake fluid flushed with the new pad/rotor install, and I just did the drain/refill of the CVT fluid - see pics of the drain plug and the old/new fluid. I previously performed the CVT reset procedure (37 MPH then coast to 5 MPH) and that had a noticeable effect on improving smooth acceleration. Have only driven it about 10-15 miles with the new fluid but it felt better.

Now considering inline CVT filter change at next interval - will likely change again at 2nd oil change. Engine coolant is full and smells/looks fine, so not planning to change. Also planning to purchase new OEM rear shocks from Bernardi's. Considering new 12V battery since it is still original.

Any input on overall maintenance I should be attentive to? Comments on Trans fluid??
That tiny leak might be the crush washer squeezed too tight?
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Change the sparkplugs yet?
Plugs got changed at 72k miles (116,000km) when the dealer did the piston rings. Not due again until 177k miles (285000km)
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Plugs got changed at 72k miles (116,000km) when the dealer did the piston rings. Not due again until 177k miles (285000km)
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CVT reset procedure (37 MPH then coast to 5 MPH) . . . . . is this a real thing (i.e., factory Honda procedure)?
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Yes that's whayi did to my old insight, although it's supposed to stop AFAIK/ remember, maybe I'm forgetful,one or the other, and don't touch the pedals
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35? I think ,must try and find it,you got a link to the exact thread?
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The exact thread where the procedure is mentioned is the one at the top of this page by norcalboon.
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👍I had it saved ref exact name of the updates etc but was away from the forum for ages etc
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