Here is rhall's latest post which got lost in the move to the lounge:
The car is still sitting untouched though there is someone hoping he gets the transmission and is waiting to see how all of this turns out. I intend to contact mudder soon. Let's see what happens. Maybe we can all come away happy.
On extremist thinking: As someone who is first an environmentalist then a car buff I don't know how any thinking person today can not be an extremist if they care a jot about the future. From my point of view, saving the cutaway Insight is insignificant: is it more worth saving that the swaths of animal species that we are losing every year? Let's get our priorities straight. Let's shine a spotlight on the Denial Industry who I consider to be committing crimes against humanity. Without their propaganda money the EPA and the Paris Accord would not be at risk, in fact we might even have gotten the jump on runaway emissions if not for the delays this sick industry created. See the books Lies, Incorporated: The world of Post-Truth Politics and also Dark Money. For a sick laugh try the movie Thank You for Smoking.
On the value of the parts mudder suggests:
-two left wheels
-left tail light
entire rear running gear brakes and shocks
complete front suspension brakes shocks, axles, lower arms with ball joints, hubs and bearings
complete brake and fuel line assemblies including the tank and straps
complete emissions gear
all door actuators
some underbody panels
both cooling systems, rads, condensers etcetera
new driver's seat with clean seatbelts
rear hatch with working defrost
two new wheels
tires that may be good- yes they may!
new steering system
Aside from monetary exchange rates I'm guessing Honda Canada's prices are triple Majestic prices in terms of hours worked to buy the part. There are very few junkyard parts here and if you want a rust-prone part like a cat, a driveshaft or anything at the rear you can forget it. What I am saying is that the car has much more value as a parts car in Canada than in the US. As a donor car it could save many others, cars that otherwise would be uneconomical to repair. There are lots of borderline Insights here. I see them all the time.
On the Antique Road Show idea of value.
I think this is nonsense. Let's say the car had a stupidly high value due to its originality. Well why would I give it away for someone else to cash in? No, the car is priceless in the sense that it doesn't have a price. It's both useless and valuable. It's value to me is that the parts are readily available and easy to remove because I don't have to fight rust. In Canada it could keep many Insights going that will hit the junkyard very soon. Most people who I see for repairs come to me because the dealer is too expensive. They are in a new social category of precariously employed. There is even a word for it now: the Precatiat. I'm with them and am insulted to see armchair curators comfortably blogging from a workdesk computer while they get paid. To them I suggest they do what George Orwell did and walk among the poor.
Concerning on-line brainstorming
When opinions degenerate into flames open and loosey-goosey brainstorming dies. It becomes bullying. Nobody came up with the option that the parts go into another chassis, say an Aquamarine, like Pete's. That would be fun. It would give us a handling and performance benchmark that few of us can remember. But that never came up. Instead we got hostility and name-calling. I'm a tough guy and can handle that but I can't tolerate misogeny. Is it part of the new "authenticity" that you can speak your id, your lizard brain, your feelings and it's all OK? politically correct speech got rid of a lot of very offensive speech and we are all better off for that.
2000 MT Citrus(DogBite); 2000 MT Citrus LTO Conversion; 2001 MT(Aeromodded Hypermiler - 134.4MPG); 2006 MT
Last edited by jime; 11-16-2016 at 10:27 AM.