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Old 03-21-2017, 05:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 80 miles range :( 2018 Honda Clarity :(

Just came across this article on the 2018 Honda Clarity EV & I am very sad to read about the estimated 80 miles range.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-an-80-mile-ev

I was expecting much better range from Honda and was actually considering this car in future.

Do not understand why Honda does not offer a car with amazing EV range to those like me who do not care about car size. Wish they would make a quality built car with amazing EV range, regardless of how small it is.

Not all EV buyers have big families or do short commutes
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I could live with that.
I can charge for free at work. I have a 22 mile commute, easy.
The times I need to travel further than 80 miles in one go are less than 10 times a year.
I might need to recharge on the go a couple of times a year. But then I'd save money on the smaller battery, lower weight, cheaper insurance, lesser tire wear etc... I get ample compensation for those few extra stops.

And I could use a big car. I gutted the trunk for extra space.

But that is just me being rational. Other people have other needs. The Clarity will most likely remain a rarity.
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I leased the FitEV, and i fit an incredible amount of stuff in that car. Every christmas i'd have an fresh 8' xmas tree in there. seats fold down so flat you could fit 10' boards in there (did that a few times). 80 miles of range would have been totally fine with me, except Hondas horrible winter/cold weather performance. when the range goes down to <30 miles in the extreme cold you have an issue. While my lack of garage increased the cold weather impact compared to the leaf the range hit was huge without even using heat.

Now if you can give me 80 miles in the dead of winter I'll get one in a second. I don't know if anyone is close to the efficiency of the FitEV. I averaged 4.5 m/kw and that was not hypermiling. The regen on that car is fantastic once the weather is above 50f. Below 50 regen is almost nonexistent.

I'll take a look at the clarity when it's available, maybe it'll fit my lifestyle at that point. I do love how Honda puts together a vehicle, but a range of 120 miles would have been a better fit for me.


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Smaller range = lower first cost + more space + better efficiency + lower battery replacement cost someday. A trade-off to be sure, but the market should definitely not just have high range EVs.
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Dang that is kinda sad. Only 80 miles...
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Smaller range = lower first cost + more space + better efficiency + lower battery replacement cost someday. A trade-off to be sure, but the market should definitely not just have high range EVs.
Agreed- they should offer different range packages as options for people with different needs. It wouldn't be that tough to design the battery compartment to be expandable.
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Default Clarity plug-in hybrid!

Well the clarity will be available as a plugin hybrid too! With a 42 mile electric range:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/13/1...range-42-miles


Now we're talking!


I'd say stylewise it lends from both gen Insights. Wonder if Honda will ever clarify why they dropped the Insight name?
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Well, I see why they made it a sedan now... they designed it around that big, honking, cylindrical hydrogen tank.



But that compromise for {useless} hydrogen means no sale here. I don't ever want another sedan after owning a Fit.

Go hatch or go home.
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I could live with a sedan if the rear seats fold down.
The Clarity seems to be large enough to move a bed. I did once in my Insight, but that was pushing the limits.

The EV and hybrid versions do not have the hydrogen tank, they should have a large boot.
Some of that space may be taken by the batteries, but the EV has no engine so I expect it to have either batteries or storage capacity under the hood. The hybrid has a smaller pack.
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According to this article 2018 Honda Clarity Electric and Plug-in Hybrid Photos and Info| News | Car and Driver the Clarity EV will have part of the battery behind the rear seats, so they won't fold down.

The engine in the plugin hybrid Clarity is the same as the Fit has. Maybe the Fit hybrid will become available outside of Japan.
After all, if they do use Fitbits in other vehicles why not the original?
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