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Old 01-08-2017, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question 12v battery dead or alternator issue? or else?

Hi there. I have a Honda Insight 2010, around 82k.
I just replaced my IMA battery, and when I turned on the car the 12v battery light come on, and after some time all the lights on the panel started to go crazy.

Explaining: A month ago the IMA light started blinking, so I got a replacement IMA battery with Eli.
I was only able to install it by myself after 3 weeks that I got it.

After installing it and turning the car on, the "Check Charging System" and the 12v battery light started blinking.

I let the car run for 10 minutes and then I drove for other 20 minutes and the lights alternate between being on and off.

The next day I started the car and after a few moments all the panel lights started blinking like crazy. One thing I noticed is that the Steering wheel was not working (it was very hard to make it turn).

I checked with a voltmeter the 12v battery and it was showing 11.85. The battery is an original Honda and it has a sticker saying 10/14

The weird thing is that the car starts without any problem.

I don't know if it is just a new 12v battery issue or if it is something more complex with the electronics (the woman from the battery shop said it could be the alternator)
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You replaced the IMA at 82k without ever checking the 12 volt underhood battery? Yikes! Replace that battery asap. If you have never had any of the software updates from Honda, get to a dealer and have those done as well.
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By the way, the IMA has an 8 year 100,000 mile warranty (10 years/150k in CARB states)
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By the way, the IMA has an 8 year 100,000 mile warranty (10 years/150k in CARB states)
I'll be damned... it is 100K. I though it was 80K like all the poor failing civics.
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You replaced the IMA at 82k without ever checking the 12 volt underhood battery? Yikes! Replace that battery asap. If you have never had any of the software updates from Honda, get to a dealer and have those done as well.
Hi Egads, thank you for your reply. Yes, I did replace my IMA battery because on thanksgiving the IMA system lights showed on the panel twice when I was on a trip from Fort Worth TX to Memphis TN (one time on the way there, and again driving back home). After that I had my Check Engine light on al the time, so I took the read the codes and it said Hybrid Battery Deterioration. So after some talk here on Insight Central I decided to get it replaced, because I want to be able to take long road trips with my car.

I have had problems before with the 12V battery before (although now it was fine), and I think that the time it was disconnected while installing the IMA was what drove it completely dead in the end.

So after reading your answer and other threads with similar issues here on the forum, I just went and replaced my 12v battery. Apparently my car is working pretty normal again, running good and beautiful.

Thank you
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UPDATE: In the afternoon everything seemed to be work fine, but at night I had to leave for a gig and the battery light came on again.
I think the mistake was that I turned on the heater, and as soon as I noticed I turned it off and stopped a few blocks ahead to talk to a friend that was driving right behind me. The light went off when I stopped, so I decided to keep going, then the light turned on again, and stayed on. I arrived at my destination and left it parked for an hour and half. After that, a couple of minutes after I turned on the car on the battery light came on again so I just did my best to get home as soon as possible. I was afraid that if I left the car on and parked for too long all the lights in the panel would go crazy again and i wouldn't be able to move the car at all.

Is there any chance that the battery is not charging????
Or did I waited too long to install the IMA and it's not working properly? although I haven't seem any IMA light again.

I don't know what can be. I think tomorrow I'll take the car to the mechanics I would have taken if I haven't installed the IMA by myself.

Any ideas??????

Thanks in advance
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I'm sorry to hear you're still having trouble! Hmm. The length of time before installation isn't an issue, and if there was anything overtly wrong with the installation or the new battery, you would have an IMA light with error codes. Does the IMA system seem to work properly otherwise, ie: you get assist and regen?

Does the 12V battery light only come on above a certain RPM?
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I'm sorry to hear you're still having trouble! Hmm. The length of time before installation isn't an issue, and if there was anything overtly wrong with the installation or the new battery, you would have an IMA light with error codes. Does the IMA battery seem to work properly otherwise, ie: you get assist and regen?

Does the 12V battery light only come on above a certain RPM?
Thanks for the fast reply, Eli!!
I confess I haven't paid attention to the RPM.
The IMA battery seems to be good. I can even see the battery charging and assisting the car in the screen. But i must say that I still don't understand enough about it to say properly.

I don't know if the cold makes difference. Or if during the day I should have driven around longer, and at night the lights on didn't help the battery to fully charge
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If you have never had any of the software updates from Honda, get to a dealer and have those done as well.
Any Honda dealer will do it? any dealer or only Honda?

I wish I heard about this before, I haven't done that at all.

I have this car since August and I'm really new to cars in general, not to mention hybrids...
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I just saw this: https://www.insightcentral.net/forums...1-insight.html

thinking about trying it before the mechanics

The only problem is that I'm not sure if the car can arrive at Honda safely. Is it possible that the car stops after you start driving?

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