[Redguy1959]

I ordered rear brake shoes for my 2000 Honda Insight yesterday from Bernardi parts. I received a message this morning that the order was cancelled because American Honda has discontinued this part.

I know aftermarket shoes are available, but I have yet to find a set that come with the pins that the self-adjuster lever pivots on. I have also been unsuccessful in swapping the pins from the OEM shoes to the aftermarket shoes.

Does anyone have a solution to this dilemma?

 

[Bull Dog]

Your rear brake shoes really need replacing?

 

[Redguy1959]

Yes they do. I have 365,000 miles on the car and at one point my wheel cylinders froze and every time I applied the brake they would not release quickly, causing added wear (I thought it was sticking handbrake cables at first). I was able to use the shoes for quite a while after replacing the cylinders but now it is time.

 

[insightbuyer]

Keep us updated if you figure this out. I was just thinking about this as I noticed even over on megazip you can't buy them.

 

[CITRUS 95060]

Keep us updated if you figure this out. I was just thinking about this as I noticed even over on megazip you can't buy them.

Take a look at Rock Auto. They have a limited supply.

 

[insightbuyer]

Take a look at Rock Auto. They have a limited supply.

I'm confused here because the original poster was talking about buying Honda brake pads because aftermarkets have an issue with the pins not working with the self adjuster. What does rock auto have exactly?

Does anyone know how long the rear brake shoes last on the insight?

 

[*sean*]

@Redguy1959 would you mind posting photos showing the difference between the stock shoes and the various aftermarket shoes that shows what the problem is, and list the source of the aftermarket shoes?

 

[Joule]

I just tried aftermarket rear shoes supplied by Rock Auto on my CVT. Mechanic reported they did not fit. Shoes were too wide and interfered with the drums. I will edit later after I finish working on the car and post the specific brand of shoes that did not fit.

 

[jime]

If the Rock Auto shoes fit otherwise, it may be relatively easy to narrow them on a brake machine.

 

[PhilipS]

Search for Honda 43053-S3Y-952

Maybe time we did the rear disc conversions. Maybe EU and Japan got them, NA got drums I guess.

 

[whaleguy]

I bought Brake Best shoes from O'Reilly Auto (BB 755) 2 years ago and everything fit fine. They are still available for $24 if the website is to be believed.

I had no trouble transfering the adjuster lever to the new shoes, so I can't say anything about that.

 

[julianachos]

Maybe EU and Japan got them, NA got drums I guess.

They did not from what I've seen.

 

[Atheos]

I ordered Gen2 drums by mistake, and the vendor required enough hoop jumping to obtain an RMA that I didn't bother returning them. I think obtaining the drum backing plate for a gen2 might be all it takes to convert these, I'm keeping my eye on the salvage yards so that I can get a better look. my concern would be whether or not the parking brake cable mounts up the same, the G1 has the sleeve on the backing plate side vs the cable side - no idea on the Gen2.

 

[DaBossk]

how important even are rear brakes at all in a car that weighs 1850 lbs? would it brake really strangely in wet/snow?

I thought it'd be cool to do the ultimate weight reduction to an insight but obviously having no rear brakes wouldnt be okay on public streets.

 

[Gasoline Fumes]

how important even are rear brakes at all in a car that weighs 1850 lbs? would it brake really strangely in wet/snow?

I thought it'd be cool to do the ultimate weight reduction to an insight but obviously having no rear brakes wouldnt be okay on public streets.

Not an Insight, but I drove a Corolla for a few weeks with the rear brakes disabled after blowing a brake line. It was fine most of the time. Under hard braking, most of the weight is on the front wheels and the rear brakes can't do much. But on slick surfaces, there isn't much weight transfer and not having the rear brakes is pretty significant. I really felt the ineffective braking on slush. Obviously you should never remove half of your brakes, but you might get away with it in a warm climate.

 

[David340R]

Worst case get them re-lined. Doesn't seem to be expensive e.g. here in UK:

https://villiersservices.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=146

 

[Redguy1959]

Wow, I hadn't thought about relining in years (decades actually). Back in the day, relined shoes were an option to save money over new shoes. I'm sure with some of the large truck shoes relining is common.

In any case, Wagner Z755 from Rockauto comes with the pins installed.