2006 Insight

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SHF

Discussion Starter · Sep 6, 2005

Located in MA and have been unable to get information from local dealers regarding the existence of a 2006 Insight. Some say they haven't heard anything while others say it was discontinued due to low sales volume and needed factory space for HCH production.

Just talked to customer Service at Honda of Amer. and was told that the 2006 Insight is indeed coming out and will be available in late Sept.

Anyone heard a similar story?

I'm in the market for a 5 speed with A/C. The dealer has a 2004 with 500 miles on it. It is not a demo but rather is being sold as a "used car". Therefore, I don't believe that I could qualify for the Federal tax credit. Further, the price is $20,995 - yes $50 until the full retail on a new 2005! On the plus side, as a Honda certified used car, it comes with a 10 year warranty.

Any guidance on what I should do? Take the 2004 with the high price, long warranty but no tax credit, or wait for a new one (if they do indeed come out).

I would appreciate guidance from the experts. Thanks in advance.

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tiger

· #2 · Sep 7, 2005

2006 Honda Insight/ Yes Or NO

shf;

Heres your answer to that question on the 2006 Insight.

"YES" there is going to be 2006 Insights produced/built Etc.

My suggestion is to "Wait". and purchase a 2006 instead of paying a premium for a 2004 Model.

Your only talking about a couple of months.

BTW; If you really want a 2006 Insight you will have to go to the Honda Dealer of your choice and place a "SOLD" order and your Honda Dealer will then go to his regional Sales Rep. and place a sold order to him and his (Regional-Sales-Rep.) will then place the order to Honda and they will then build the Insight. The time frame your looking at is around Two-Months/Maybe-Six Weeks once the Sold order goes to Honda.

This is not my opinion but fact, I have already been there and went through the process with the Honda Dealer that is next door to the Dealer that I work for. This was a 2005 Insight,Red,Manual, w/A/C.

HTH :arrow:

Terry

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Roger

· #3 · Sep 7, 2005

2006 Honda Insight

If there really is a 2006 Honda Insight, then what are the differences between it and the earlier Insights and how much dose it cost?

jbrasure

· #4 · Sep 7, 2005

Re: 2006 Honda Insight

Roger said:
If there really is a 2006 Honda Insight, then what are the differences between it and the earlier Insights and how much dose it cost?

According to my Honda dealer, the 2006 Insight will be virtually identical to the 2005 model. I'm not sure about the cost, but I'm guessing it will stay the same.

SHF

Discussion Starter · #5 · Sep 7, 2005

What about the 100K mile warranty on the 2004 Insight since it is Honda Certified? I guess you don't think that it creates much additional value. Your reasoning?
Thanks for your help.
Steve

tiger

· #6 · Sep 9, 2005

Re: 2006 Insight/100000 Mile Warranty ????

SHF said:
What about the 100K mile warranty on the 2004 Insight since it is Honda Certified? I guess you don't think that it creates much additional value. Your reasoning?
Thanks for your help.
Steve

SHF; Regarding the 100000 mile warranty on the 2004 Insight.

You still have a "2004-Insight" regardless of the extended warranty.

Wait an order a (New-2006) Insight which is two years newer and not alot of difference in price.

I work at a dealership and believe me if you were to come in and trade the two Insights (one-2004) (one-2006) you would not even believe the difference in what the two cars would be worth regardless of mileage or the fact that the 2004 Insight was still new (Non-Titled). As soon as you sign the paper work you have a (TWO-YEAR-OLD-VEHICLE).

Well it's up to you but as they say you have been "WARNED". :wink:

Good-Luck :!: :!: :!:

HTH

Terry

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Roger

· #7 · Sep 9, 2005

Tiger, did you get to chose the color when you ordered your insight?

Roger

Dougie

· #8 · Sep 9, 2005

I ordered my 2005 and got to specify the 5 speed, A/C, and the color. It took exactly three months to arrive.

Mike Dabrowski 2000

· #9 · Sep 9, 2005

Another warning on the extended warranty on the 2004, considering you go that way. MAke sure that the IMA components would be covered under the extended warranty. When I asked that question back in 2000 when I bought mine, the answer was that the Battery and IMA stuff were not covered. Thinks may have changed since then???

tiger

· #10 · Sep 12, 2005

Color Choice ???

Roger said:
Tiger, did you get to chose the color when you ordered your insight?

Roger

Roger; yes you can choose the Color/Auto Trans. or Manual Trans./ And A/C.

Just like ordering any other vehicle. It takes somewhere around Two-Three Months beginning to end/Delivery.

HTH

Terry

BTW; as I said in the above posting I have already been through the process and it's no-big-deal.

Lawson Huntley

· #11 · Sep 17, 2005

My advice is to order and wait for the 2006 Insight. The newer blue color looks very nice too.

The tax credit would likely be worth much more than anything that might need to be repaired under the "certified" warranty. These are pretty reliable cars. Besides, you can always purchase an extended warranty later for the 2006 if you believe you need one.

SteveChicagoSC

· #12 · Sep 17, 2005

Tax credit?

The speculation is only the 2006 CVT insight will qualify for the tax credit.

The cleanest car(5speed insight) in production doesn't qualify?

Insightful Trekker

· #13 · Sep 17, 2005

The CVT Insight is "cleaner" from a regulated emmissions standpoint. HC's CO and NOx's.

But since the 5 spd gets better MPG then its CO2 emmissions will be slightly less. With lean burn slightly increasing NOx's.

Resist

· #14 · Sep 17, 2005

The Insight doesn't qualify for the tax credit but it does qualify for the tax deduction.

kari

· #15 · Nov 29, 2005

I'm in the market for a 2006 insight, currently, and I'm trying to figure out if the 2006 is in fact able to get the tax deduction - the IRS webpages I've looked at have said MODEL YEARS 2000-2005, and the pages I've seen explaining the new tax credit doesn't have the manual transmission (what I want!) as eligible.

Does anyone have any more information about this?

Insightful Trekker

· #16 · Nov 30, 2005

kari said:
I'm in the market for a 2006 insight, currently, and I'm trying to figure out if the 2006 is in fact able to get the tax deduction - the IRS webpages I've looked at have said MODEL YEARS 2000-2005, and the pages I've seen explaining the new tax credit doesn't have the manual transmission (what I want!) as eligible.

Does anyone have any more information about this?

Hi kari and welcome to the forum :!:

Sorry I don't know for sure. And the tax laws in regard to Hybrid credits / deductions can and have changed almost yearly of late :!:

Only the IRS knows for sure. I've emailed them on a couple of different issues in the past. Expect a comprehensive and courteous reply (but sometimes difficult to understand without multiple reads)

HTH!

ethicalpaul

· #17 · Dec 7, 2005

Yes, because the manual Insight is ULEV and not SULEV (due, as has been discussed by its lean-burn ability which produces more NOX), the highest mileage production car ever created does not qualify for the new credit!

I am in the same boat as you, I will only consider a manual, so we're screwed. Don't feel too bad, even the CVT Insight only qualifies for something like a $1400 credit, because although it gets great mileage, it gets less of a percentage mpg increase against other cars in its class (very tiny cars), and that's one aspect of the formula of the credit.

The Prius gets a very impressive credit of around $3400 I understand?? If it wasn't a giant 5-seat CVT, I'd be very tempted. I like the shape, but I want to try a two-seater again.

As for 2006 not being included (your source said 2000-2005), I don't know anything about that.

The laws really haven't changed that much, Trekker, have they? There was a deduction that a lot of people were confused about that was written to change (get smaller) every year, but with the big transportation bill that passed this summer, it was removed and replaced with this credit, which for most people is a much better deal.

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bpapa9013

· #18 · Dec 7, 2005

There are also State tax credits in some states, and per what little I know they change CONSTANTLY!!!

At one point my Dad's friend (who is a tax lawyer) told me my scooter (if I had bought it new that year) would be eligible for a tax credit of some kind (he didn't elaborate) of $500 or 2% of the purchase price (whichever was smaller). I'm still not sure if he was joking (he is not normally the kind of guy to joke about tax stuff :wink: ).

Something about it being a two seater and getting better than 100mpg or something, I think he might have rattled off something about a formula to figure out the exact value... I think he said that the lawmakers that passed the bill weren't specific enough about restricting the credit to passenger cars or something...

kari

· #19 · Dec 28, 2005

Insightful Trekker said:
Hi kari and welcome to the forum :!:

Sorry I don't know for sure. And the tax laws in regard to Hybrid credits / deductions can and have changed almost yearly of late :!:

Only the IRS knows for sure. I've emailed them on a couple of different issues in the past. Expect a comprehensive and courteous reply (but sometimes difficult to understand without multiple reads)

HTH!

Thanks!

I did call the IRS a few weeks ago, and they told me that Honda was responsible for filing paperwork for the 2006 Insight to make sure it gets the $2000 deduction for 2005. I spoke to Honda after that, and they didn't have any information about the status of the tax credit. so I went ahead and bought the 2006 and picked it up last week, hoping that the deduction will go through and I can take it off of my taxes for this year. I hope!

Fred

· #20 · Mar 10, 2006

Any guidance on what I should do? Take the 2004 with the high price, long warranty but no tax credit, or wait for a new one (if they do indeed come out).

I would appreciate guidance from the experts. Thanks in advance.[/quote]

If you really want one ...

Use your computer and draw down a list of all Honda dealers in your state.

Once you have that list, start calling the dealers. On this end I ended up calling thirteen (13) dealers and at present I am expecting receipt of not one, not two but three "worksheets" from three different dealers who somehow managed to find the 2006 Insight I'm looking for. NOTE: Not one of the cars was located in my state but these dealers have a cooperating agreement where they will "import" the car from other dealers - at no additional cost(s) to you.

So, if you really want one ... start calling ... a lot of Honda dealers. The Insight you want, if you want it bad enough, it's available.

Note, I've used those WWW quote pages to locate an Insight - all with ZERO success. I've even had Honda sales people fail to return my calls - and these are people who have nothing else to do all day but sell cars!

Fred

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