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Montreal has now hit the 95cent per litre mark...the insight looks really sweet now 8)
 

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elbo said:
Montreal has now hit the 95cent per litre mark...the insight looks really sweet now 8)
Wow, that is verry cheap!!!!!!, you guys on the other side of the pond are so lucky, here in Holland/the Netherlands, 1 liter costs 1,29 euro = 1,54 US $ and 2,11 Canadian $ :cry: , realy, I am verry [email protected]#$% up on that ! :evil:
This the reason I bought the Insight also for, I paid 300 $ US per month for that fuel. I don't want to be rude now, but it realy makes me so mad. So people on the other side of the pond: be happy what you pay now !! It can be a lot worser in other parts of the world.
 
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Hi Windmill:

___The European taxing bodies are making a hell of a windfall on the consumer’s backs with that high a price … Nymex Unleaded Regular is going for $1.24 for May delivery. Add maybe $0.50 - $0.75 for delivery and profits and you are looking at $1.75 - $2.00 real costs at the pump. I am sure the European Union receives their cracked and processed LS Unleaded Regular for ~ the same amount in France, Britain, wherever and delivered to the local petrol station? That equates to the equivalent of ~ $4.00/gallon in taxes alone. What the hell!

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
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Hmmmmm,
Now I am realy waiting when the people who drive in "no brain cars" starts to realize that they can't pay their fuel anymore, for me it is insane that 95 % of the cars on the roads are "no brain" cars at all !!!
When does the human race start with banding these kind of cars ?
Oh no, I start again...........
 

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Don't worry, Windmill, the US and Canada won't be able to subsidise gas forever. Sooner or later everything will balance out...
 

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HI,

I have heard on the radio that in some places there are people that fill up and leave without paying. They say that the goverment and compagnies are stealing them so they do it too.

The gas price going up here is only due to gas compagny profit and goverment tax. It can fluctuate by more than 10% in 3 days.

It is one big raison why I love my Insight. If the gas price does not go down in the next 4 days, I wait for the next week when it does go down. Other car can not do that as they can't do enough mileage on a tank.
 

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Gas tends to be hoovering around $2.05/gallon here (~3.8/liters)

Usually you can hack off at least 10 cents or so if you use one of those credit cards that give you 5% back on gasoline purchases. AAA and Citibank offers credit cards that do these. Might wanna apply for these cards if you're looking to save a couple of bucks on gas!
 

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"...in some places there are people that fill up and leave without paying."

They've got that taken care of. Around here most pumps are the automated ones, where you either give it a credit card or cash first.

"you can hack off at least 10 cents or so if you use one of those credit cards that give you 5% back on gasoline purchases."

Yeah, got one, though it's like 1-2% on everything. I may be the only person in the US that's making a profit off the credit card companies: pay in full every month, so there's never an interest charge, and get a couple hundred dollars discount per year...
 

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I heard, (this is unconfirmed, but from a guy who isn't known for making up BS, so maybe it's true) that the Canadian government is soon (I didn't ask how soon, but likely very) going to "step in" and start controlling gas prices. Supposedly this is supposed to make gas prices the same everywhere in the country. This price is, however, going to be higher than it is now. Supposedly it's going to be fixed at $1.00 per litre until they decide otherwise.

It's just a rumour though. However, I'm tempted to believe the guy, since he isn't the sort to make stuff like this up.
 

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Don't bet the farm on it. They said they were going to cap the electrical rates and they have just gone back on that one.
 

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$4.95/gal - no complaints

Today I paid 1,09 euro's per gallon for fuel, which, as stated in the subject line, equals almost 5 US$/gallon and I for one cannot in all honestly complain at all. As someone stated in an earlier message, the difference in price is all taxes; the cost of the fuel in Europe and the US is the same. Actually it's probably a bit less in Europe now due to oil being priced in $'s and the $ being low relative the euro. That's why the price for fuel here in France hasn't really changed very much over the past few years. The lowest I think I've seen since France switched to the euro was maybe .95E/liter.

Why don't I complain? Because the roads here in France and as a rule in all of Europe that I've seen are excellent, way better than in the states. Maintaining a road system is expensive as heck and somebody has to pay for it. Here in France the autoroutes are impeccable and also expensive to drive because they're all toll roads and the cost is high. The bene's are great roads and less traffic.

But as a generalization, the price of fuel in Europe is in my opinion a reflection of the basic socialized system Europe prefers to live with, which includes the parties on the right. With the exception of the far right parties, right - or conservative in american terms - parties are well to the left of the democrats in the states today. Which is more a statement on how far the politics in the states has moved to the right rather than on where the european parties are.

Socialism, regardless of its extent, is expensive. All governments are expensive for that matter but here in Europe people prefer having their governements actively involved in maintaining and moderating civilization rather than letting corporations and business interests in general call the shots. In terms of gasoline, that means that here it's the goverments that rake in the cash off the sale of gasoline which is then used to maintain the infrastructure that the country is based upon. Whether that objective is attained in the most efficient manner or not is another question but the core of the matter is that the money is used to benefit society.

In the states it's the oil companies that rake in all the profit. I remember Clinton proposing a 5 cent increase in the fuel tax and people went ballistic. The proposed tax increase was to help rebuild the rapidly crumbling highway system. Yet the oil companies can, and obviously have, raised prices enormously with nary a peep raised in protest. That, in my opinion, is a classic example of the difference in perspectives between Europe and the US.

Here in France the high fuel prices are also used as a tool to reduce pollution, just like in the summer on hot days when the pollution level ratchets up they instantly slap a maximum 70 kph speed limit on the highways - normal is 130 kph. Slower speeds, less fuel consumed, less polution pumped out. Again that's a reflection of the European perspective.

All of which is to explain why I for one don't complain about the price. That's the cost of living where everyone has full medical care, free education through university, publicly funded elections with all candidates running on the same price ticket, train and buse systems linking just about every village and town, great highways, etc.

Like the old american saying, you get what you pay for. Here, we get the government raking in the money and using it, for the most part, for the benefit of society. I prefer that system myself.
 

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Well put enders. I’ve always thought that Americans should have to leave the US for 6-12 mo when they get to be 20 years old or so. They should go live with a rural family somewhere. The US looks a lot different from the outside looking in. Talk about your paradigm shift! Now if only our Pres. had…oops.
 

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Hi,

The price of gas is now $0.86 per liter (6 days ago it was 95) I suppose that the price of the barrel has gone down (not).

Enders wrote "goverments that rake in the cash off the sale of gasoline which is then used to maintain the infrastructure that the country is based upon"
Here (in Quebec, I am not sure for the rest of Canada) none of the money on gas goes to the roads. I think we have the worst road in north america. All either goes to profits or tax that are not returned to the citizens.

So the Insight is ideal for the up/down gas price we have. I did not buy the 95cents gas and filled up today at 86cents. Not a big difference in my pocket but it is for the pricipal of the thing. It is like that every week or two.

Usually the price goes up on a Tuesday, people get payed of Thursday and fill-up, then the price goes down on Saterday or Sunday. We even have Ultramar that have a special 3 cents lower gas price of the supreme on Thursday only. It is still at a higher price on the Thursday than at the regular supreme price of a Sunday
 
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