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My "check engine" light came on last week so I scheduled a service appointment for Monday. I've been noticing some hesitation for several months now and was planning on bringing it in under warranty. Anyhow, they call and tell me it is code P1456 which they claim indicates a problem with the gas cap?????. I tell them I highly doubt it is the gas cap and mention how the EGR valve is a common known problem with Insights.
Several hours later they call me back and tell me they have to order an EGR valve and it will be 3 days. I picked up the car last night , no charge to me. On the service receipt it says, "Diagnosed check engine light P1456. Tech called tech line for support. Tech line recommended replacement of EGR valve. Replaced EGR valve. Tech line also recommended burnish start clutch. Performed that procedure also" Does anyone know what "burnish start clutch" is? Car is a CVT by the way. Also listed near EGR valve is "S/B# 05-026" Could that be Service Bulletin 05-026 relating to the EGR valve problem? Fortunately I have 34k miles on the original 3 yr/36k mile warranty. I'm hoping the EGR valve doesn't go bad again once I reach 36k.
When I first scheduled the appointment, I told them I assumed it would be covered under warranty. The dealer tried to tell me that because I bought my 02 as a leftover in 03, that my 3 year period was up. Can you believe that? I supposedly lost a year of warranty while it sat on their lot?...Needless to say, without much of a battle, they finally realized my coverage started the day I picked up the car in 03. Anyhow, I'm just wondering what the "burnish start clutch" is?
 

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P1456 is indeed called the loose gas cap code.

More specifically its Evap leak, fuel tank area. In some unusual cases other more expensive items have (usually) been damaged.

<shaking head> Seems the dealership should know that warranty starts from the date of first sold.

Don't know what the burnish the start clutch proceedure is either. Maybe you can find out and report for the group :!: :D

I'll look into the S.B. when I get the chance. Maybe somebody else will post a reply first. :)

HTH! :)
 

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Yes, please let me know... I got my first CEL and am quite nervous as I drive several hundred miles a day. I can't really afford for my insight to be out of commission long :evil:

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My "check engine" light came on last week so I scheduled a service appointment for Monday. I've been noticing some hesitation for several months now and was planning on bringing it in under warranty. Anyhow, they call and tell me it is code P1456 which they claim indicates a problem with the gas cap?????. I tell them I highly doubt it is the gas cap and mention how the EGR valve is a common known problem with Insights.
Several hours later they call me back and tell me they have to order an EGR valve and it will be 3 days. I picked up the car last night , no charge to me. On the service receipt it says, "Diagnosed check engine light P1456. Tech called tech line for support. Tech line recommended replacement of EGR valve. Replaced EGR valve. Tech line also recommended burnish start clutch. Performed that procedure also" Does anyone know what "burnish start clutch" is? Car is a CVT by the way. Also listed near EGR valve is "S/B# 05-026" Could that be Service Bulletin 05-026 relating to the EGR valve problem? Fortunately I have 34k miles on the original 3 yr/36k mile warranty. I'm hoping the EGR valve doesn't go bad again once I reach 36k.
When I first scheduled the appointment, I told them I assumed it would be covered under warranty. The dealer tried to tell me that because I bought my 02 as a leftover in 03, that my 3 year period was up. Can you believe that? I supposedly lost a year of warranty while it sat on their lot?...Needless to say, without much of a battle, they finally realized my coverage started the day I picked up the car in 03. Anyhow, I'm just wondering what the "burnish start clutch" is?
i had a same experience like this:rolleyes: and it was so annoying but better luck for next time
 

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Does anyone know what "burnish start clutch" is?
The start clutch allows a CVT Insight to start from a stop just like the manual clutch in a manual transmission Insight. For some reason, the start clutch in a CVT can begin to chatter (judder) when the car starts from a stop. Burnishing is intended to fix this problem. The procedure seems to literally burn or wear away the clutch surface. For this reason, burnishing cannot be done too many times before the clutch must be replaced.

I'm hoping the EGR valve doesn't go bad again once I reach 36k.
A bad EGR valve isn't always the reason that the engine stutters at a certain engine speed. Frequently, the exhaust gas passages that are part of the EGR system become clogged and must be cleaned. But regardless of the reason for the stuttering, this repair needn't be expensive.
 
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