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Difficulty keeping 5 sp @ 65 mph

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I love my new insight, but seriously miss cruise control :cry: . I try to keep my silver spacepod at the speed limit, but have 2 challenges.

1. It wants to zoom. When going flat or downhill this light, spunky thing wants to fly :twisted: .

2. On the inclines I either overanticipate and overshoot, or not anticipate enough and slowly lose 'altitude. :? '

I believe it may be related to old habits of getting it in 5th gear and keeping it there. Should I be going into 4th when anticipating an incline? My daily route is fairly flat. I commute between Davis & Sacramento: the flatter part of the Sacramento Valley. Most of my 'hills' are man made bridges over rivers, duck flyways/rice farms, and interstates.

I am not capable of installing a second party cruise control. Has anyone had success having Honda install one?

Is there something about my driving habits that I can change?
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Atheos said:

I rarely have any Rostra units come back, and never had any
pulsating problems with rostra.
Disclaimer: I haven't installed one on my insight yet, and won't until I find a favorable OEM looking solution to the cruise switch. (yes, I've seen the steering wheel button add-on, and I think it looks like s#!t)


I too dislike any of the available cruise switch options. Have you looked at using a factory cruise on/off switch for a different Honda model? It should simply snap in one of the existing blanks.

The high dollar factory look alike (an option for 5spd's only) is to install an Insight CVT steering wheel and cable reel.

I looked but could not find enough information on the Rostras to determine if the switch contacts of the CVT functions (momentary to ground) would be compatable for the set/decel functions of a Rostra. The on/off functions of a factory main switch should not present a problem.

There is a detailed long post/thread in one of the old Yahoo Insight forums in regard to the rostra cruise fuctions.

What I remember of the thread is that you can usually "beat" a cruise's MPG ability except on long trips where driver fatigue factor sets in.

John K. Bullock
Knoxville, TN

aka. Insightful Trekker
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Atheos said:
Insightful Trekker,

>I had exactly what you mentioned in mind.
>I was thinking about these two options:

>1. Use a different honda steering wheel, which would have OEM
>cruise buttons.
>Lots of downsides to doing this though. First, I really like the 3 spoke
>wheel on the insight, and I don't know of another similar honda wheel.

I have read that the S200 uses the same wheel, at least in style.

>Second, this is an expensive route, and who knows about compatibility
>issues until you start tearing things apart.

Older wheels may be a serious compatablity problem especially in regard to the column trim just behind the wheel. Thats where the CVT Insight's steering wheel should shine :)

>I was thinking the new honda civic wheel would look nice, epecially if I were
>to convert the entire column. (tilt wheel, ya!)
>There could be some airbag safety issues to this. I'm sure the airbag
>is finely tuned to the exact >suroundings of the drivers compartment, and
>using an airbag from a different model may be a hazard.

I don't believe the compartment is a design factor. However, the airbag connector and how the squib interfaces with the airbag control unit may very well be a serious problem.

>2. use the CVT buttons, and silkscreen the set/accell - coast letters on
>the buttons.

Well, the CVT system comes labeled in a oversize single letter "S" and "D". Close enough for speed-up <g> and decel for me. :)

> Use an accord cruise on/off (mid 90's and up) switch above the pocket/fuse cover on left side of the >dash which will be an exact fit.


>As far as wiring, it shouldn't be an issue and I'll post a simple schematic of whats involved when I get a chance to install my cruise.
My lack of knowledge in this area is in relation to what a Rostra cruise needs in a switch signal for its accel/decel signals. The rest is simply whether or not you want to spend the bucks. <?>

John K. Bullock
Knoxville, TN

aka. Insightful Trekker
Re: Cruise Control vs. MPG

puck said:
:arrow: What does cruise controll do for MPG :?:
From whe I remember reading in an old Insight Yahoo forum; on long trips where driver fatigue sets in the cruise usually can "beat" you. Otherwise you can beat it by a few MPG.

John K. Bullock
Knoxville, TN

aka Insightful Trekker

Please note that I'm driving around on 50psi in the tires, and I check 'em about every three days now. I have one tire that'll lose air quickly and just one low-pressure tire will kill your mileage handily.



Sounds like a punctured tire to me. Yes, the higher inflation pressure looses air faster. My experience is 2-3 psi every 6-8 weeks in all four.

John K. Bullock

aka. Insightful Trekker
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