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MY 2nd INSIGHT IS A 2000 MODEL WITH 148K ON THE CLOCK .

THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS DRIVING IT ONE DAY AND IT JUST DIED .
IT RESTARTED AFTER IT COOLED DOWN BUT HE DIDN'T TRUST IT AND PARKED IT A YEAR AGO .

BEING DESPERATE FOR SOME GOOD ECONOMY TRANSPORTATION AFTER THE LOSS OF MY 2005 ,
I BOUGHT THE CAR HOPING TO BE ABLE TO FIND WHATEVER ELECTRIC GREMLIN AILS THE CAR .

FIRST OFF I PUT IN A NEW 12v BATTERY AND CHECKED THE GROUNDS .
WHEN YOU TRY TO START IT ALL THE RIGHT LIGHTS COME ON BUT NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN YOU TURN THE KEY .

I TRIED TO BYPASS THE STARTER AND FOUND THAT IT WAS BAD . I PUT IN A NEW ONE . I CAN HOT WIRE THE STARTER NOW
BUT IT STILL DOESN'T START WITH THE KEY .

I LOOKED OVER FUSES TODAY AND EVEN THROUGH THE TROUBLESHOOTING SHOP MANUAL .
SO FAR I HAVE NOT FOUND THE CAUSE .

I DO HAVE A FRESH IMA BATTERY TO GO IN THE CAR BUT I WANTED TO AT LEAST GET IT TO START UP FRONT
BEFORE GOING INTO THE BACK .

ANY SUGGESTIONS ? THANKS , -DAVID-


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Are you leaving the key turned long enough? It can take kinda an odd amount of time for the Insight to engage the 12V starter if IMA isn't going to start the car.
 

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Are you leaving the key turned long enough? It can take kinda an odd amount of time for the Insight to engage the 12V starter if IMA isn't going to start the car.

THANKS , I'LL GIVE IT A TRY TOMORROW .
MY FIRST INSIGHT ALWAYS STARTED INSTANTLY .
 

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Neither the ground wire or the hot wire are connected.
 

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OK, so it looks like RIMSPOKE has two Insights, a 2000 and a 2012?.
 

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From the picture, I can't see a negative post ground wire

THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN BEFORE I STARTED WORK ON IT .
THAT IS THE OLD BATTERY THAT WAS REPLACED .
 

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OK, so it looks like RIMSPOKE has two Insights, a 2000 and a 2012?.
MY FIRST ONE WAS A 2005 . RAN GREAT BUT WAS TOTALED IN A DEER STRIKE .
THE NEW ONE IS A 2000 . BOTH HAVE MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS .
 

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OK, so it looks like RIMSPOKE has two Insights, a 2000 and a 2012?.
MY FIRST ONE WAS A 2005 . RAN GREAT BUT WAS TOTALED IN A DEER STRIKE .
THE NEW ONE IS A 2000 . BOTH HAVE MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS .
Was this your totalled Insight currently posted on Coparts?
JHMZE13795S000208
Purchased in late Spring 2017 in Lawringburg, NC?
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PLEASE DO NOT TYPE IN ALL CAPS! In all the internet world it is considered screaming. Just reserve caps for actual screaming or to emphasize special words. ;)

Now - it sounds to me like you have a problem energizing the starter solenoid. It could be the actual solenoid, the ignition switch or some wiring problem. Might be wrong, but off hand I think the solenoid is grounded on negative side to chassis ground, through the mounting, and it gets 12V switched to it through the ignition switch and maybe a relay somewhere. You need to open up you Electrical Troubleshooting guide and look at the circuit to find ideas and test points. You can use a trouble light/probe to good effect with this kind of issue.

It "might" also be ground wires. There are two between engine/transmission and chassis. Obviously there is one at the 12V battery. Grasp all three and give them a good hard tub. One or more may come apart in your hand.
 

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Was this your totalled Insight currently posted on Coparts?
JHMZE13795S000208
Purchased in late Spring 2017 in Lawringburg, NC?
YEP , THAT's MY CAR !
 

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do you own an OBD2 reader (and know how to use it)?

I TRIED THE SUGGESTION TO HOLD THE KEY IN THE START POSITION FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD .
IT DIDN'T START BUT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DID COME ON .

I AM GUESSING THAT THE CAR HAS OFFERED ME A CLUE IN THE NEWLY STORED CODE .
MY SON HAS AN OBD2 READER AND WE WILL BE CHECKING THE CAR WITH IT TOMORROW .

YES , I PROBABLY SHOULD BE GETTING MY OWN READER .
I HAVE 11 VEHICLES AND 8 OF THEM ARE ANTIQUES WHERE THE ONLY READER YOU NEED
IS KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE .
 

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do you own an OBD2 reader (and know how to use it)?

I TRIED THE SUGGESTION TO HOLD THE KEY IN THE START POSITION FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD .
IT DIDN'T START BUT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DID COME ON .

I AM GUESSING THAT THE CAR HAS OFFERED ME A CLUE IN THE NEWLY STORED CODE .
MY SON HAS AN OBD2 READER AND WE WILL BE CHECKING THE CAR WITH IT TOMORROW .

YES , I PROBABLY SHOULD BE GETTING MY OWN READER .
I HAVE 11 VEHICLES AND 8 OF THEM ARE ANTIQUES WHERE THE ONLY READER YOU NEED
IS KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE .
Check the interlock that prevents starting unless the clutch is depressed and/or not in gear.
 

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this is probably the best starting point I can offer. (2000 & 2001 Honda Insights here) Borrow your son's, not worth the OBD2 investment (since most auto parts stores do it for free - that is if the car is in a running state).
 

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Check the interlock that prevents starting unless the clutch is depressed and/or not in gear.

I ALREADY DISABLED THE INTERLOCK . I HATE THOSE THINGS .
 

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If you shorted the clutch switch permanently you’ll never get lean burn.

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If you shorted the clutch switch permanently you’ll never get lean burn.

sam


I DIDN'T "SHORT" IT , I SIMPLY BACKED THE SWITCH OUT .
THANKS FOR THE TIP . SOUNDS LIKE I NEED TO PUT IT BACK WHERE IT WAS .
 
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