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I know Fit coming to US is not news.

But it's now confirmed officially. American Honda put the update email sign up here. ->
http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/index.aspx
(sorry for repost if somebody already post this info somewhere)

The naming of the car will be Fit (not Jazz). No other official detail is avairable.

Illustration is very much like current version.

I like the name "Fit" better!
 
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Hi Ty:

___The Honda Fit will be a disaster in my eyes …

Very Solid Fit Info …

1.5 L VTEC - 105 HP - EPA rated 32/37

___Most most may as well purchase the POS Chevrolet Aveo for $3,000 - $4,000 less $’s :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
 

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Current Japanese Domestic 1.5L Fit has 81[110](kW[PS]/rpm)/5,800 and 143[14.6]/4,800 (N・m[kg・m]/rpm.
If the above # (1.5 L VTEC - 105 HP - EPA rated 32/37) is ture it's lower than or equal to current version after adjusted to new US HP measuring standard (which most Honda gets lower hp).
I think the US Fit will be the completely new version and should improve in power and economy and get little larger in size.
Japanese Fit compete with Corolla (in total sale #) which ranked #1 for long, but Fit stealed it recent years. (this is pretty big deal since Toyota dominate Japanese market all time. They kept more than 50% car market share for long in the past.) You can imagine Fit is very important car for Honda in Japanese market. So, I believe the newer version should get substantial improvement to compete with up coming new Vitz/Yaris, Corolla and others next 4 to 5 years. It will be five years by next spring since Fit intro, and full model change is just right timing.

Toyota Yaris for US market will have up to 40 mpg and 106 Hp according to here.
http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/y ... TURE_YARIS
Even current US Corolla get 38 mpg.

It's not all about # but hope Fit will do better than that. 1.5L base Fit should do better than 35 mpg.

At least one Japanese magazine speculate that the new Fit will be little wider with 1300cc Sohc Vtec and 1500cc Dohc Vtec and may have 1.7L version too.

I am hoping Honda will introduce Fit Si (even better with Type R) and hybrid probably in second or third model year. It will be hard to choose... The best one would be Fit Si hybrid. It's not gonna happen but nothing wrong with deaming it. We are talking about the company with "The Power of Dreams" slogan.

I think Insight is really the car created by the power of dreams.

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When Honda introduced the CRV I read articles that suggested that the SUV market was already flooded and thhe CRV was a mistake. :roll: When Honda introduced the Element I figured it was an ugly CRV and that nobody would want it. Variety is good for sales. Besides Honda is already building the Jazz/Fit, so what does it cost them? Don't we always complain that we don't get all the available models here in North America? I'd like to see an Accord wagon, an Accord Diesel, and a Civic hatch back here. Toyota is pushing the Yaris here like crazy!
 

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When somebody sees one of these things in the flesh, I hope they remember to measure how long the engine is. My suspicion/hope is that it's about the same length as the Insight engine+motor, and with a little luck the mounting points will be common.

Drop-in replacement engine?
 

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A hybrid version of the updated Fit/Jazz should be with us in 2007. I suspect they may try and slot in the latest Civic IMA engine.
 

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No, I don't think so.

Why ?

Well, the Jazz/Fit is made in China isn't it. I wouldn't expect Honda to "export" their high-tech to any production facility outside Japan..... not in the near future anyway (industrial espionage). This is the main reason the new Swindon-made 5-door ciVic is only available with conventional engies.

I could see something different coming though.
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Possibly true about the espionage bit, but I have to disagree with you about a new hybrid Jazz/Fit. Its planned production was confirmed at our Insight Owners Day which also tallies with the 'new models arriving soon' sections of motoring websites.
 

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Honda make certain model car at multiple locations. For examle, Civic is made in Japan and US (I guess all engine came . Civic hybrids are only build in Japan. I think Honda in South America makes Fit too. Like all auto makers, Honda is pushing more manufacturing capability in China. I think Honda won't bring to build the most advanced tech like hybrid in China anytime soon. On the other hand, interestingly, Toyota already decided to go to build hybrid car in China.
My guess is that US Fit will come from Japan at least until it become large enough volume to build in American continent.
 

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xcel said:
Hi Ty:

___The Honda Fit will be a disaster in my eyes …

Very Solid Fit Info …

1.5 L VTEC - 105 HP - EPA rated 32/37

___Most most may as well purchase the POS Chevrolet Aveo for $3,000 - $4,000 less $’s :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
This VERY SOLID INFO is turning into a very staid piece of B.S. now - Honda will not confirm and the poster now claims that a copy is not available - no way no how...believe mileage figures when Honda and the EPA post them -
Not when speculated by an unconfirmed source...
The VTEC Temple is on the slide when they stake their reputation on unsubstantiated rumors....
 

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I agree that those MPG figures look a little poor, so I did some checking on the current Jazz/Fit that is sold in the UK to try and back up my view. The current models 1.4 i-dsi engine has an official combined UK MPG figure of 47.9 for the automatic (America's first choice of transmission) which converts to 39.9 MPG in American gallons...

When you also take into account that the revised Jazz/Fit (being sold in America for the first time) is likely to weigh more (as cars evolve they tend to gain weight with additional safety features) and that the quoted engine is a 1.5 litre, the speculated MPG figure (averaging at 35 MPG) may not be that far off...
 
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