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Herky Jerky, hesitation, rough engine etc etc survey?

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I've allready wrote a letter to South East Honda about this problem. I am waiting for there reply back.

For those who have the Jerky, hesitation, rough engine problems please answer the following? Any other remarks should be kept to the numerous other post on this issue. All that is need for this Topic is for the question to be answered.



:arrow: 1 Year of car?
:arrow: 2 Manual or CVT?
:arrow: 3 A/C or non A/C?
:arrow: 4 Mileage problem started?
:arrow: 5 Current mileage?
:arrow: 6 stock air filter or K&N filter?
:arrow: 7 stock Honda oil or Mobil 1?
:arrow: 8 fuel octane 87,89,91,92,93 used?
:arrow: 9 fuel brand mostly used or not used?
:arrow: 10 Has any recalls been performed?
:arrow: 11 Any previous problems? if not 1st owner please put unknown
:arrow: 12 What has been replaced to fix the jerky problem?
:arrow: 13 Follow up on ?10 did it fix the problem and how many miles since then?
:arrow: 14 Dealership used?
:arrow: 15 Any help from the dealer? Yes or no
:arrow: 16 Name
:arrow: 17 Email address
:arrow: 18 Lifetime MPG
:arrow: 19 Average speed on the freeway?
:arrow: 20 % of miles in town or freeway? example 10%city90%freeway
:arrow: 21 Valves adjusted yes or no at what mileage?

Please just answer the questions - Use the numerous other post to debatetheories on this problem Also use the edit option if your problem gets better/worse and any thing changes.
Disable your signature. Its not need for this post

I want to compile this information and forward in to Honda. Looks like we are getting little to NO help from Honda. So we should be proactive and help them HELP us.

PM me if any other options/questions should be added.
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1. 2000
2. manual
3. A/C
4. Problem started around 35000 miles
5. 50190 miles
6. K&N Filter
7.Stock oil used for the first 30xxxmiles then switched to Mobil 1.
8. Premium fuel was used for the first 45xxxmiles then switched to regular
9. Various brands fo fuel used, car didn't run well on racetrac brand fuel.
10. PCM recall was performed at 33811miles :idea:
11. o2 replaced at 12390 miles, ECM replaced at 18065 miles.
12. replaced the EGRvalve at 36000miles, replaced spark plugs @ 45xxxmiles. I've cleaned the EGR valve numerous times. Cleaned the air filter.
13. Nothing has fixed the problem. Some things help or at least I thought tey helped. A few miles later the problem is still present.
14. Ed Voyles Honda Marrietta GA & Hertiage Honda Rome GA.
15. Both dealers suck. ZERO knowledge on the Insight!
16. Claude Akley
17. [email protected]
18. 58LMPG
19. 80mph slower up hills and faster down hills.
20. 20% city 80% freeway miles
21. Valves adjusted at 40xxxmiles
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1 2000
2 5spd
3 A/C
4 ~60000
5 72000
6 stock
7 stock
8 87 (regular unleaded)
9 Chevron
10 All recalls
11 No previous relevant problems
12 EGR valve replacement
13 Yes, ~7500 miles
14 University Honda, Corvallis, OR
15 Yes
16 Tim Maddux
17 ---
18 70 MPG
19 65 mph
20 Overall 75%+ freeway, recently 50/50
21 Not to my knowledge
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1 2000
2 Manual
3 A/C
4 56600 km
5 56900 km
6 stock air filter
7 amsoil 0W-30 synthetic
8 fuel octane 87
9 Ultramar
10 BCM, ECM, brake lever
11 Bad engine to body ground cable (and engine to transmission cable also)
12 Nothing, Jerky problem append rarely, not reproducable with scenario
13 Not reproducable yet, 300 km
14 Lallier Honda
15 No but since not reproducable it was expected
16 Yves M.
17 Please use the Insight Central email option not to show mine online
18 48 miles per us gallon
19 120 km/h
20 90%city 10%freeway
21 Valves not adjusted
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1 2000
2 5spd
3 A/C
4 ~25000
5 33000
6 stock
7 stock
8 87 (regular unleaded)
9 Shell
10 N/A
11 No previous relevant problems
12 computer once, O2 sensor twice
13 new computer lightened the problem, but it was still there.
14 Goodson Honda, Houston, TX
15 No, they said it is normal.
16 James D. Taylor
17 ---
18 58 mpg
19 N/A assume 45 mph
20 Overall 50/50
21 N/A
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1 2000
2 Manual
3 A/C
4 3000
5 30100
6 stock air filter
7 stock Honda oil
8 fuel octane 87
9 no preference
10 Parking brake, O2 sensor
11 O2 sensor code
12 Replaced air filter with Wix paper filter.
13 Yes. Perhaos 300
14 Hahahahaha!!!
15 Didn't ask for help.
16 Fred
17 gfedcba12345[email protected]
18 54
19 I experience blue shift and time dialation.
20 80% freeway.
21 No
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1 Year of car? 2000
2 Manual or CVT? Manual
3 A/C or non A/C? A/C equipped
4 Mileage problem started? Noticed it soon after bought Honda Certified @ 23,000 Miles
5 Current mileage? 30,000
6 stock air filter or K&N filter? Stock
7 stock Honda oil or Mobil 1? Honda 0W-20
8 fuel octane 87,89,91,92,93 used? 87
9 fuel brand mostly used or not used? Any
10 Has any recalls been performed? ECM and Parking Brake
11 Any previous problems? unknown
12 What has been replaced to fix the jerky problem? nothing yet
13 Follow up on ?10 did it fix the problem and how many miles since then? N/A
14 Dealership used? Certified Used from "The AutoMaster", Shelburne, VT
15 Any help from the dealer? Dealer has been helpful
16 Martin Maitner
17 [email protected]
18 ~65 MPG
19 Average speed on the freeway? Rarely exceed 50 MPH
20 % of miles in town or freeway? 80%city 20%freeway
21 Valves adjusted yes or no at what mileage? Not to my knowledge
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1 2000
2 Manual
3 A/C
4 ~17,000
5 20,000
6 Stock air filter
7 Mobil 1
8 fuel octane 87
9 Varied (cheapest)
10 All recalls
11 Unknown
12 Nothing
13 N/A
14 Honda (Employee) Service Center - Anna (Ohio) Engine Plant
15 Yes
16 Joe Griffo
17 -
18 69
19 70-75 MPH
20 80% City/20% Highway
21 Never
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1: 2004
2: Manual
3: AC
4: 0
5: 5000
6: stock
7: stock
8: 87
9: BP/Mobil used most
10: no
11: no
12: nothing
13: n/a
14: Valley Honda, Aurora IL
15: n/a
16: Joe
17: [email protected] (spamcatcher)
18: 54
19: 55
20: 80% town
21: n/a
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1 2000
2 Manual
3 A/C
4 40000
5 65000
6 stock air filter
7 stock Honda oil up to 50000, Mobil 1 after?
8 fuel octane 87
9 n/a
10 ECM
11 sticky window
12 nothing
13 n/a
14 n/a
15 never asked for help
16 Armin Kusig
17 [email protected]
18 69
19 60
20 10%city90%freeway
21 no
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last updated this post: Nov. 25, 2004

1 - 2001
2 - Manual
3 - A/C
4 - 60,000 kms
5 - 67,600 kms
6 - stock air filter
7 - stock Honda oil
8 - 87 octane fuel
9 - any brand fuel
10 - all recommended recalls have been done
11 - no
12 - no action taken yet - (update Nov 25/04: Took the car in for 'engine hesitation'; technician hooked up the computer and found no evidence of problem in EGR system or O2 sensors. Took technician for test drive and showed him the problem. Returned 2 weeks later to have him visually inspect spark plugs, coils, EGR system.. he found no problems in EGR or plugs but found rust on coils)
13 - n/a
14 - Dow Honda in Ottawa Ontario
15 - Not taken in yet because jerkiness is occasional
16 - Ron Rancourt
17 - [email protected]
18 - 52.6 MPG (4.4 L/100km)
19 - 105 km/hr
20 - 50/50
21 - no
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1 - 2001
2 - CVT
3 - A/C
4 - 18,000
5 - 18,200
6 - K&N, now back to Stock
7 - Honda oil
8 - 87
9 - Shell and Mobil
10- Yes
11- Headlights peeled, rubber door/window molding deteriorated, radiator leaked, headliner drooped in back, front air deflectors warped, rear hatch outside trim broke loose.
12- EGR Valve replaced
13- Yes
14- Sunset Honda SLO, CA
15 -Yes
16 -Resist
17 -
18- 47.7 MPG
19- 70-75 MPH
20 -90% City 10% Freeway
21 -no
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1 Year of car? 2001
2 Manual or CVT? CTV
3 A/C or non A/C? AC
4 Mileage problem started? Started at 41.5 - stayed there until EGR value was replaced
5 Current mileage? 42-45
6 stock air filter or K&N filter? stock
7 stock Honda oil or Mobil 1? honda
8 fuel octane 87,89,91,92,93 used? - 87
9 fuel brand mostly used or not used? nothing with deliberate regularitiy
10 Has any recalls been performed? - not to my knowledge - but car's been in for service frequently for last year and half....
11 Any previous problems? if not 1st owner please put unknown - brakes grunting after first acceleration of day, jerking started around 13,500 miles, engine light coming on, battery light coming on, engine failing, battery failing to recharge....A/C and heat not working, and always getting around 41 mpg - no matter how/where I drove car.
12 What has been replaced to fix the jerky problem? EGR valve - replaced at 22,400 - eliminated noticable occurances - for 3 months
13 Follow up on ?10 did it fix the problem and how many miles since then? Under 200 miles since then - it's starting again
14 Dealership used? Started at Airport Marina Honda, then went to Culver City Honda - questioned Santa Monica Honda, back to Airport - where different tech was kind enough to help me - dispite poorly compensated by Honda - for warranty work that I represent.
15 Any help from the dealer? Yes or no NO help from dealers - I came in with paperwork - explaining EGR valve - and listing service bulletins - they said they'd never heard of anything I listed as potential problem.

16 Name Hope Ingersoll
17 Email address [email protected]
18 Lifetime MPG 41.5
19 Average speed on the freeway? 65
20 % of miles in town or freeway? example 10%city90%freeway 70 city, 30 %freeway
21 Valves adjusted yes or no at what mileage? not that I know of...
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2000
Manual
A/C
--
56k
stock
mobil
87
local brand
all recall service
not that i'm aware of
n/a
n/a
n/a
brandon williams
[email protected]
70
50/50
no
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1-01
2-CVT
3-A/C
4-70,000 was getting around 50MPG
5-74,000 now around 55-56
6-stock
7-Modile1
8-87 sometimes 93 about every 3 months
9-cheapest
10-emissions recall (no impact from it)
11-no problems other than the front brakes clicking (fixed for some time now)
12-EGR valve and 12 volt battery
13-EGR valve fixed it for around 500miles, then it came back but not as bad. Odd as it may seem the 12 volt battery has had the most impact; it has also helped increase the state of charge on the HV pack.
14-Self done
15-Dealership provided helpful advice (Honda Cars of Columbia)
16-Jason McCarthy
17-no home e-mail address just got filled with too much junk
18-52.1 and should now start climbing again
19-everywhere from 70 to 80, but mostly around 75
20-40% city / 60% highway
21-I first adjusted the valves around 50K and have touched them up since

Hope all this helps, I will let ya'll know if this miracle 12 volt battery replacement lasts.

Jason
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1 01
2 5 sp man
3 AC
4 30000 km
5 38000 km
6 Stock AF
7 Dealer provided Oil
8 87
9 Sunoco
10 yes - computer ?
11 yes - LED, Seat belt
12 EGR valve
13 no problem since
14 Windsor Honda
15 yes - did the work after being shown forum info
16 William Marcotte
17 [email protected]
18 4.3 L/100km
19 100 km/hr
20 60% city 40% fwy
21 No
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1 2000
2 Manual
3 A/C
4 42,350 ish
5 42,500
6 stock air filter
7 stock Honda oil
8 fuel octane 87 somtimes 89
9 speedway and BP
10 only for the light that I know of.
11 unknown
12 oxygen sensor
13 the problem was not fixed.
14 Dayton Auto Mall/ Honda Dealer
15 Yes totally free
16 Paul Minor
17 [email protected]
18 51.2
19 70 mph
20 30%city 70%freeway
21 no
Hope this helps
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1. 2000
2. Manual
3. A/C
4. 49950
5. 50480
6. stock
7. Mobil 1
8. 87
9. Mobil, Conoco
10. All
11. Unknown
12. fuel additives, premium gas
13. problem decreased, 300
14. none
15. no
16. Kim
17. [email protected]
18. 68
19. 65 - 75
20. 10% city, 90% highway
21. no
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:arrow: 1 Year of car? 2001
:arrow: 2 Manual or CVT? manual
:arrow: 3 A/C or non A/C? ac
:arrow: 4 Mileage problem started? 16k
:arrow: 5 Current mileage? 50k
:arrow: 6 stock air filter or K&N filter? stock
:arrow: 7 stock Honda oil or Mobil 1? mob 1 syn
:arrow: 8 fuel octane 87,89,91,92,93 used? 87
:arrow: 9 fuel brand mostly used or not used? qt
:arrow: 10 Has any recalls been performed? no
:arrow: 11 Any previous problems? if not 1st owner please put unknown unknown
:arrow: 12 What has been replaced to fix the jerky problem? fuel line
:arrow: 13 Follow up on ?10 did it fix the problem and how many miles since then? no 30k since
:arrow: 14 Dealership used? yes
:arrow: 15 Any help from the dealer? no
:arrow: 16 Name doug forrester
:arrow: 17 Email address [email protected]
:arrow: 18 Lifetime MPG 54.7
:arrow: 19 Average speed on the freeway? 65
:arrow: 20 % of miles in town or freeway? 10%city90%freeway
:arrow: 21 Valves adjusted yes or no at what mileage? no

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Herky Jerky Survey

1 2001
2 Manual
3 AC
4 20K
5 38K
6 Stock Filter
7 Stock Honda Oil
8 Fuel Octane 87 or 89... Depends on brand/station
9 Chevron and Shell
10 All that I know about
11 Check Engine Light On - Fixed with replacement of some module
12 Nothing
13 Not applicable
14 Yes - Exclusively
15 NO
16 Gary Dowley
17 [email protected]
18 54
19 65
20 60 Town, 40% freeway
21 Yes... Don't remember. Had no effect on problem
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