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What does your local dealer charge for Honda keyless entry remotes?

My Honda dealer wants $129 a piece plus $35 for programming for each of my cars (01 Insight, 00 Accord).

I'm curious to see what other dealerships are charging for new remotes and programming.

I'm done with ebay because the listings show new remotes, and 3 out of 3 times I've won - I end up with junk that doesn't work and won't program. First one was superglued together and cracked. Can't check the battery if you can't even open it. Second one was completely corroded inside from water and didn't work. The 3rd one only 1 button worked and it looked like someone tried to superglue the circuit board pieces back together. Each one was advertised as new, or like new and they obviously weren't anywhere close to that. The Keyles Ride site is run by one of those same lying ebay sellers, so thats off the list too.

What does your local dealership charge? I bet there's some that want even more than what mine is charging.
 

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What do you mean by "programming" exactly? There's a process for doing this in the shop manual that seems pretty simple.
 

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programming the remote to the car, my dealer said the car has to be hooked up to their diagnostic equipment to program the remote.
 

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http://www.TheKeyGirl.com

keygirl77 on ebay. i bought a remote from her and was very happy. i don't remember how much i paid her. but i wouldn't have paid more than $20 or so. dealer charged $105 to program 2 remotes, cut 1 keys, and program 2 keys.
 

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programming the remote to the car, my dealer said the car has to be hooked up to their diagnostic equipment to program the remote.
Wrong. It's just a proceedure you should be able to do yourself.

I bought a 3rd remote for my other Honda on ebay for like 25 bucks, which arrived brand new still sealed in the plastic bag. I had some trouble doing the programming and the service guy at my dealer just did it for me himself for free.

Interesting point, what the service guy did was quite a bit simpler than the proceedure in the manual, and in one attempt he had all 3 remotes functioning.
 

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The website for keygirl says its not available til December. I'll look around and see what I can turn up.
 

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NOPE :!: Doesn't require the HDS for programming of keyless remotes. It is required for additional ignition switch keys.

P.g. 22-149, Transmitter Programming, of the Service Manual. A 15 step process of key-on, off and keyless entry transmitter button pushes. A couple of minutes work. A LOT more in typing minutes to transcribe the instruction sequence. (1/2 page)

Maybe you can politely "shame" them in either doing it for free or at least coping the page for you.

HTH! :)
 

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The instructions sound like what Ive found for Acura - correct?

do steps 1 - 12 on the same remote AT TIME OF PROGRAMMING BOTH REMOTES MUST BE PRESENT SINCE THEY WILL NOW BOTH BE HAVE TO REPROGRAM. the following steps 1-12 are done on a single remote step 13 is done on all remotes to be programmed upto 3 can be programmed

1) get into the car shut the doors and make sure they are unlocked
2) turn on the ignition (do not turn on the car just the ignition)
3) press the lock button on remote (turn to off )
4) turn key to the accessory ON position (your radio works in this mode)
5) turn on the ignition (do not turn on the car just the ignition)
6) press the lock button on remote (turn to off )
7) turn key to the accessory ON position (your radio works in this mode)
8) turn on the ignition (do not turn on the car just the ignition)
9) press the lock button on remote (turn to off )
10) turn key to the accessory ON position (your radio works in this mode)
11) turn on the ignition (do not turn on the car just the ignition)
12) press the lock button on the remote
the locks should chirp to indicate that programming mode was entered successfully
13) press the LOCK button on remote the doors should chirp again to confirm programming THIS STEP NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR EACH REMOTE
14) turn of the car fully and try locking/unlocking with remote

to turn on/off the chirping when locking/unlocking with remote do the following

press the trunk release button on the remote and hold it then while holding press the LOCK button on remote and hold it the led on the remote will flicker for about 1sec after it goes off release both buttons and test it the procedure for chirp on and chirp off is the same, this needs to be done on both remotes otherwise only the one programmed will allow chirping while the other will still be silent or viseversa
 

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VERY close.

Timing is critical between the Key-on and off sequences.1-4 seconds.

Key on is dash lights no engine start. Press the a transmitter lock or unlock button. (choose one remote unit and don't switch them during this sequence)
Key off is just that, but do not remove key from ignition (not enough time anyway).

The above 3 times in the alloted time.

Once your in the door lock program acceptance mode you'll hear the door lock(s) actuate.

THEN:

On the last sequence of the process you have up to 10 sec each for additional remote transmitters. And at that point (if you've done the dance correctly) each should actuate the door locks.

No "chirping" though. (I guess they save that feature for the high end models :p ) We just get the "industrial" clunk of the actuators operating. Nor is there a trunk release button.

Then key off, remove key from ignition, and test each remote.

HTH! :)
 

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Send me a PM with your email address. I have a copy of the Honda program instructions sheet. S2000 remotes will work too, you'll just have a spare option button that does nothing.
 

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93Miata said:
What does your local dealer charge for Honda keyless entry remotes?

My Honda dealer wants $129 a piece plus $35 for programming for each of my cars (01 Insight, 00 Accord).

I'm curious to see what other dealerships are charging for new remotes and programming.

I'm done with ebay because the listings show new remotes, and 3 out of 3 times I've won - I end up with junk that doesn't work and won't program. First one was superglued together and cracked. Can't check the battery if you can't even open it. Second one was completely corroded inside from water and didn't work. The 3rd one only 1 button worked and it looked like someone tried to superglue the circuit board pieces back together. Each one was advertised as new, or like new and they obviously weren't anywhere close to that. The Keyles Ride site is run by one of those same lying ebay sellers, so thats off the list too.

What does your local dealership charge? I bet there's some that want even more than what mine is charging.
You own a lot of cars.....


http://www.hondaelement.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=53334#post53334post53334
 

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I found another site online that I'm willing to give a shot - http://www.ThePartsYouNeed.com

The other KR site wants about $70 a piece with shipping for the 01 Insight remote.

They're 1/2 that price on ThePartsYouNeed site with the instructions included. I ordered 1 this morning.

https://www.thepartsyouneed.com/display ... ductId=149

I'll keep you guys posted. If it works good, I'm going to order one for my Accord as well.
 

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Diagnostic what?

The dealer is full of it and should be reported. I bought two keyless remotes last spring (think they were about $78 apiece; I have the receipt if you'd like me to check). The tech walked outside with the removes, did something with the car sitting in the drive, and that's all there was to it.

No charge for the "programming."
 

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I got my remote from ThePartsYouNeed.com in the mail today. 5 days isn't bad especially when one was a Sunday.

Programming was easy, took about 10 seconds. I can't believe a dealership would charge 1/2 hour of labor for a 10 second job. Thats a good way to lose customers.

Anyhow, the remote works great and when I went to put in an order for remote for the Accord I noticed I got free shipping, so I bought a 2nd remote for the Insight and a pair for the Accord. FINALLY I will have remotes that work and that I can use.

ThePartsYouNeed.com rocks! :D
 

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Got the Accord remotes in today.

The Accord and Insight use the same programming, but I couldn't program an Accord remote to the Insight or vice-versa.

I also see that 2 of the ebay sellers are gone off ebay now, but judging by their feedback, they took a lot of money and ran:

Eagles_Wingz

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Hmm, I don't think so - the Accord uses a KOBUTAH2T remote and the Insight uses an E4EG8DJ unit. Different frequencies if they have different FCC numbers.
 

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On another forum, somebody mentioned that they had pretty badly limited range with their remote, but if they aimed the remote at their chin, they could get the car to lock and unlock from about 120 ft away.

I tried it when I was headed back to my car from the mall today, and it works...lol. Probably will get brain cancer now...but it about triples the range.
 

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Probably has something to do with the positioning/aiming of the RF transmitter. Usually the shape/design of the dongle has nothing to do with the direction the transmitter points (usually RF transmitters are actually omni-directional and don't really point at all). But it is funny how they can act differently in different situations/positions.
 
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