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I have said on this fourum before that I want to get a 2005 Navy Blue Pearal Insight around when I grauduate(around 6 months). I have heard from Rick that Honda stopped production of the 04 Insight in March, and that he wouldn't be surprised if they did so whith this years. So does anyone know if this is a guarantee that they are going to stop production of the 2005 Insight in March? I have e-mailed Honda myself about this but no reply. I am afraid that if they do stop production of the 2005 Honda Insight that I may not be able to get one.
 

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I think March is about right. I am getting a new 2005 red 5-spd, hopefully with NO air. The build date in Japan is Jan 4, with delivery to me about Feb 12. Apparently the production run will be short, with very few being brought to North America. So get with your dealer NOW! Billy.....
 

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Oh great just what I thought. Now I probly won't be able to get one, man this pisses me off. :x I just don't get it why make the car and then just stop making it all of the sudden? I aint going to be able to get one because I don't have the money, the only way is if my parents let me use some of my settlement money in the bank.
 

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They have been making Insights from model year 2000 to model year 2005 that's a long time for a Japanese car.
You could try to buy a used Insight instead of a new one.
That's what I did. The one I bought was as good as new for half the price. :wink:
 

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The Insight is a Japaneese car, I never knew that. As for getting a used one, I don't think I would find one. In my area it is you either buy a new one from the dealer or I guess don't get one. I have not seen any used Insights around at all. And even if I did I probly wouldn't get it in the color I wanted, or something would probly be wrong with it. I am not too fond of buy a used vehicle, I would rather stick with the new one because then whatever damage is done to it is done by me.
 

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AFAI remember production was stopped early last year because of some restructuring in manufacturing (shifting locations of production and R&D) that Honda was doing in Japan.

Whether or not Honda will only do a short production run next year still remains to be seen.

And AFAI remember there were still some 04 models available well after production ended. So don't give up hope yet! :)

HTH! :)
 

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I was always a new car buyer until my first Insight, and then I was so happy with the bang for the buck on the used Insight I purchased (from a Dodge dealer, no less) that I convinced my girlfriend to do the same and we are both equally happy. We got hers from private sellers. We met them (duh!) and they are really nice people and took great care of their Insight (they named her Jane, in fact). We kept her name in honor of them, in fact.

You need to learn a bit about what to look for and figure out if the seller is a crook or not (for the GF's car, I first was involved in trying to buy one from what turned out to be a crook named 'Maurice' down East of LA), but after that it's wonderful to have the car.

If I had not gone to the 2nd hand market, I never would have been able to get one (I wanted a manual) and we got such good prices that we have two for the price of one and neither has had any problems other than a busted rear wiper nozzle which cost $50 to have fixed at the dealer.

You can also get a Honda warranty, which you can cancel at any time and get your pro-rata cash back, if you worry.

I vote to keep your eyes on the second hand market, and at least talk to some sellers. If they aren't local, you can then decide if it is worth the trip.

A lot of folks here have flown out to their sellers, and driven back. I don't know if anyone has had a problem yet doing that.
 

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As for getting a used one, I don't think I would find one. In my area it is you either buy a new one from the dealer or I guess don't get one.
The other day an ebay 10,000 mile Insight sold for only $12,000. That's a lot cheaper than buying new. That was NJ, but if you keep searching ebay eventually one will appear in FL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=31839



Carmax.com has a a used ~25,000 mile Insight for $13,000. They'll ship it to your house.

So YES it is possible to get a used Insight to your home.
 

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According to Car & Driver:

"2005 Honda Insight If replaced, and it is not definite, it will look almost identical to the IMAS Tokyo concept car, and be powered by an updated version of the current hybrid gas/electric drivetrain."

http://www.caranddriver.com/default.asp ... Make=Honda
 

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I just picked my used 2000 Insight at Ebay. It has 70K miles on it. I had the seller take it to a Honda store to check it out after I won the bid, but before I sent the money. I live in CA and he lives in TX. The shipping is only $550.00. BTW Gillman Honda in Houston was great and the car is perfect they say. Nice to get a second trusted opinion. Plus Gillman only charged me $130 for a complete inspection, rotation and oil and lube.
 

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ElectricTroy wrote:
The other day an ebay 10,000 mile Insight sold for only $12,000. That's a lot cheaper than buying new. That was NJ, but if you keep searching ebay eventually one will appear in FL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=31839
I would never buy a car on e-bay, look at what has happend to that guys who bought his on e-bay, now his car won't recharge properly. The only way that I would buy one on e-bay is if the car is in perfect condition and if the seller was truthful about the pics that he posted on the car. I know that some poeple have bought cars on e-bay and they look at the pictures and the car looks fine and then they go to see it in person and it doesn't look like it did in the pics or you find something that they are trying to hide in the pics or something is wrong when you go to take it for a test drive.
 

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...which is why i pointed out the 10,000 mile version. It's still like new, and still covered by Honda's warranty.
 

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I would never buy a car on e-bay, look at what has happend to that guys who bought his on e-bay, now his car won't recharge properly.
Yes, such a thing could never happen in a non-ebay sale </sarcasm>
 

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Yeah but ElectricTroy, like some of you Insighter's have said on here that when you take your car to a dealer to get it repaired they never end up fixing the problem. Now I will say that the those of you that have responed to this topic: "Honda Stopping Production of 2005 Insight in March" have gave me some good Insight to as why I should get a used one and that maybe just what I will have to do. It just depends on how good of condition the car is in and if it has what I want as far as the color, transmission, has all the updates from the recalls, and how far the battery is woren down.
 

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Remember when crook eBay seller posted fake pics stolen from a member's website? That wasn't too long ago. They took the pictures of the lmpg dash readings and other stats and said they were for the car they were trying to sell.

There are tons of crooks on eBay, but there are also plenty of crooked car folks who haven't figured out how to peddle their crooked wares on eBay quite yet.

Nothing substitutes meeting the people and seeing the car yourself and/or having a techie inspect it with you or on your behalf.

Remember though, there are lots of nice honest folks out there as well. It is only that the scum crooks steal the limelight and make life hard for the honest sellers.

We could run over the crooks on eBay with our Insights, but our cars are so light that they probably wouldn't ruffle their reptilian scales!

p.s. I mean no offense to reptiles.
 

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p.s.

I guess the problem with eBay vs. a private seller or a used car dealership is that you have to bid up at the auction before you even see the car most likely. With a private seller you can talk to them first, visit them and examine the car, and then make your offer. eBay has it all backwards because you have to make your offer before you talk to them or see the car!

Not to mention it is easier for a crook to hide behind an eBay page than when you are standing in front of him next to the car! Of course, it could be a crook woman trying to rip you off as well... Equal opportunity and all that.
 

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Just because you win the auction does not mean you have to buy it. If the car is not as advertised when you inspect it, you just refuse to pay.

Anyway, I'll be buying a used Insight this January/February... either carmax or ebay. I have no hesitation in doing it.
 

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Haha found it, after about 10 minutes of searching!

http://www.insightcentral.net/forum/vie ... php?t=1085

Follow the link to the temple of vtec article.

The decision to only do limited production of the Insight is really a smart economical decision for Honda. First consider they are loosing money on each Insight they build. The production vs demand is not nearly high enough to even come close to breaking even. So we're lucky to be graced with the Insight to begin with. What Honda is doing at this point is keeping the Insight in production just enough that they get to top Toyota on the EPA charts. So yeah, I'm forecasting they will only produce the Insight for a few months at the beginning of the year again.

That said you expressed interest you probalby wanted an automatic anyways. You might have to travel a little bit and drive it back, but you should be able to locate one somewhere after my projected production stop. It's the 5 speeds which will be hard to find.

Again I'm just speculating, but it seems logical to me.
 

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I bought my Insight from a real individual via eBay a couple months ago.

It went really well and there was nothing monstrously wrong with it, though the LMPG was low and the battery's SoC is usually about 1/2 or less, this seems to be common for people who don't learn to drive them well though.

My recommendation would be to make 100% sure it's a real person and not some company you're buying it from, as most of those big used car movers get ahold of auction cars that have pretty ugly histories (hidden or not).

The person I bought mine had all of the original paperwork, name on the title, service records for the life of the vehicle, and was a pleasure to work with. If you choose eBay, I hope you have a similar experience to mine.

My $.02
-B
 

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ElectricTroy said:
Just because you win the auction does not mean you have to buy it. If the car is not as advertised when you inspect it, you just refuse to pay.
That's not always the case, however. Though you can refuse to buy if the auction was blatantly untruthful, you may not have the same option if you perhaps simply misunderstood something in the auction. So the car may be as described, but perhaps not quite as you expect.

Technically speaking, unless there's been some misrepresentation on the part of the seller, you could be sued for not buying it after winning the auction.
 
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