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Sorry all if this is in the wrong area, but I was wondering if any of you Insight folks had the same issue as a buddy of mine. He and I were talking the other day and he has a Honda Civic Hybrid that is pretty new and he is only getting a little over 33 mpg with his car. Did anyone else have that issue with their Honda Hybrid? What did you do to fix it? He plans on taking it in to the shop to see what is up. Thanks.
 

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Hi feautos,

the engine has to break in before it will get decent mileage.

It seems to take most of us a little time to figure out how to drive these cars to get the most out of them.
 

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Well, The Insight is my favorite and I'm averaging over 70 MPG since new.IMA works. The Insight and the new Accord hybrid were not on your list, so I didn't vote. If I had to choose from the rest it would be the Prius. (You didn't mention the mileage for the Suzuki.)

Looks like a nice site, but a 25 MPG goal sucks. The Europeans would die of laughter. Even my Mother's CRV sport Utility does better than that! If as some are predicting 20 percent of the fleet are hybrid by the end of the decade, they would have to get infinite gas mileage to drag the rest of the fleet up. Most of the other cars on your list would be as effective as a fart in a thunderstorm at bringing up the average. Five years from now they will be the ones dragging it down. That is why I voted for an Insight with my hard earned cash. Driving a 70 MPG Insight forces those curious enough to inquire to have a major Paradigm shift in a way that a 30 MPG car never could. I go out of my way to be politely informative, for although They probably won't consider an Insight they will likely consider a hybrid when the time comes. Sorry if I sound harsh, but we need dramatic break throughs, not gradual adaptation, if North America is to survive and thrive.

I'll get off my soapbox now.:)
 

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b1shmu63 said:
Well, The Insight is my favorite and I'm averaging over 70 MPG since new.IMA works. The Insight and the new Accord hybrid were not on your list, so I didn't vote. If I had to choose from the rest it would be the Prius. (You didn't mention the mileage for the Suzuki.)

Looks like a nice site, but a 25 MPG goal sucks. The Europeans would die of laughter. Even my Mother's CRV sport Utility does better than that! If as some are predicting 20 percent of the fleet are hybrid by the end of the decade, they would have to get infinite gas mileage to drag the rest of the fleet up. Most of the other cars on your list would be as effective as a fart in a thunderstorm at bringing up the average. Five years from now they will be the ones dragging it down. That is why I voted for an Insight with my hard earned cash. Driving a 70 MPG Insight forces those curious enough to inquire to have a major Paradigm shift in a way that a 30 MPG car never could. I go out of my way to be politely informative, for although They probably won't consider an Insight they will likely consider a hybrid when the time comes. Sorry if I sound harsh, but we need dramatic break throughs, not gradual adaptation, if North America is to survive and thrive.

I'll get off my soapbox now.:)
Hrm, but if we cut emissions too drastically it could have an adverse effect on the climate, no? To my understanding the levels of blue-green algae in the oceans are very high in response to high levels of carbon dioxide - if we cut emissions too fast (before the population of algae decreases) the algae could eat up all the carbon dioxide leaving us without enough to keep the planet warm... or so I read near the bottom of this page:

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Emke/When%20Ice% ... 20Town.htm

EDIT: Though it doesn't help that it will take lots of oil to build any new infrastructure to use any sort of alternative energy - which may cancel out the above problem but of course only if we built a new infrastructure and sharply reduced consumption more or less simultaneously.
 

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As far as the Civic goes, it sound pretty low.

Make sure he is watching his instantaneous mpg readouts as he drives around, and that will soon show if the car is working properly or not - and let him optimize driving.

I test drove a brand new Civic Hybrid and it was getting way over that without any real effort, so I don't think it is just because the car is new but because the car is new to you guys.

The most help is reading a bit and watching the instantaneous mpg display, then you can tell when you are giving it more gas than needed and pushing it to low mpg.

Also, of course, try to upshift and cruise along more than you might otherwise...
 
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