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I give up Rick what's the one obvious thing?
 
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Hi Rick:

___No VIN listed and the Honda emblem on the hood is missing … Hmmm, front end accident perhaps ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
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Don't know if the seller added it after you viewed or not but the first line under the main photo is:

JHMZE1358YP001945

The missing emblem is strange...more aerodynamics? :)
 

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I found it:

From the site : "Transmission: variable"

It is a CVT and a model year 2000 which is not possible unless you replace the transmission.

No CVT where available in 2000

But the above list also the transmission to be manual and the picture shows a shifter so it is not a CVT.


Or it is the more pointy line in the middle of the hood showing that it was not only the emblem glue that was removed (or bolt hole that was plugged)
 

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Along with the other mentioned:
Cover picture-Looks like the left front fender is a slightly different shade.
Pic of the dash at 40 mph shows a forced charge and battery indication of a probable recal having just occurred. Bad time to take a pic.
 

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dummy?

Ok am I a dummy or what?
I don't understand why in the one picture the rpms are at 1,000 when the car is stopped and door open.

I also saw the "variable" transmission on an obviously manual car. Basically the seller doesn't know much about this car.

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Interesting also how the Photoshop job to hide the plate number also covers up something on the rear bumper. A sticker or worse? :?:
 

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wow...

First of all, I just tried to carfax the VIN for laughs and it's incomplete...a digit is missing.

Secondly, I'd never trust a Carfax report from Arizona, they don't get vehicle records from there. I ran my Celica's VIN as a litmus test and there were no record reports between the original owner's purchase and when I relocated to the Pacific Northwest. I'd had the car a full two years before that happened.

I don't believe the rear quarter panel in the second picture matches. And why would the owner photoshop-snip the rear plate well so **BADLY** when one can remove the plate for the photo in one minute with a screwdriver? Since he bothered to transport it up to the Princess Resort fountain it just doesn't make sense.
 

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anyone else notice the little red light on the steering column? makes me wonder...

Although, with that (whatever it is), the low LMPG, possible paint job and low battery level make me think the last owner had Fast & Furious visions...

love this though:
"black color combination of this car are one of the nicest available for this model vehicle"
Wasn't it the only color combination in 2000?
 

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Carfax

I ran the vin through carfax and that VIN was invalid, however Carfax automatically substituted the P with a T and found the vehicle, and everything checks out on it, though the last entry was long ago.

Last mileage entry was 26 miles.... Somethings not right.

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The missing emblem on the hood is the obvious thing. I really don't want to discourage anyone because an acquaintance owns the car. I tried buying it from him, but he wanted me to do all the work and then just split any profit.. nah.


huhhhhhhhhhhhh... here it goes, I hope he doesn't see this.


I've sat in the car, I've looked through it. It's deffinitely been in a slight collision. The front bumper and passenger side fender have been replaced. Really thats all I could see that was damaged, it might have a new radiator core support, but it wasn't that bad. It also needs new carpet to be correct, there is a small hole worn through on the drivers side which isn't shown, unless he replaced it.

The thing that really concerned me was the engine was easily twice as loud as mine at idle. I think the head will need to be rebuilt soon, thats my main concern. It could just be a valve adjustment, but the noise level scarred me. I was planning on buying it and making it right, but he wouldn't sell it to me.

As far as the mileage it's right. The car was a trade in at a Honda dealership, they wholesaled it because it couldn't be Honda Certified. It's a one owner car, there haven't been any mileage repotrs since it was new basically. A new entry will be put in when someone buys it.
 

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Hello Rick,

You wrote "because it couldn't be Honda Certified". Does that meen that they know there is a problem, like on the engine, and do not want to repair it before selling it? Like written above.
Or is it nothing unusual, many cars are not certified.
 

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My guess is...

..that it couldn't be certified due to the loud engine.

That is to say, it needs a tune-up, but the dealership didn't think it was worth shelling out for one to certify the car (and with buyers like me, they're probably right).

Either that or the collision work.

Not sure how much good certification is, anyway. I couldn't pin anyone down on whether the IMA is considered part of the drivetrain.
 

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I thought the limitations were 4 years old, and 36K miles for "certification." I, of course, could be wrong.

They couldn't care less about the condition. It (the warranty) is a gamble they usually win.

about the car:

The hole in the carpet (in front of the gas pedal) is still there.

It has pinstripes :!:

Maybe the recal is due to the climate control being set to 60 :!: :!:

So Rick, what is the state of the battery, if you know?
 

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I think Honda Certification allows one replaced body panel... I could be wrong, but I know the sales men would have like to have retailed it.

As far as battery state, I don't konw. I just got to start it and let it idle. It was force charging while I was looking at it.
 

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Hmm well this gets interesting. I got a follow up. Apparently the first round on eBay the buyer was a dead beat buyer. Then they were driving it and the dash lit up like a christmas tree. Took it to a dealership and it had the code for new battery pack so they put one in it (under warranty). Second buyer I guess flew in from Texas to drive it home. Guess it could have been a good one to buy.
 
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Hi Rick:

___Even with a new pack, the other issues you have brought to our attention do not make it a good buy imho. That is unless it went for significantly less then $8,000?

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___[email:kk3y4y3x][email protected][/email:kk3y4y3x]

 

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So are the manual's battery packs lasting 1/2 as long as the CVT's? I'm asking cause I've only heard of people with manuals having issues with them so far. 68k miles and a potentially failing battery pack is disconcerning. My CVT has 85k miles and the battery still has a ton of juice.
 
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