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:?: :arrow: :? Insight owners and would be owners, so what are your all thoughts as to the purchase of the "New-2006 HCH" versus the Insight? :?:

I have read in more than a couple of different Web Sites about what owners are getting for " FE" with their Insights this summer running the A/C and it looks like to me that the mileage on the Insight driven at normal Hwy. speeds and running the A/C is not any better than this New 2006 HCH, plus you have a 4-door with trunk and Nav., Satellite radio and true comfort plus 50 MPG in city 54 MPG HWY.; not to mention that the 2006 HCH has Electric and Belt driven A/C while your in stop and go traffic and staying "COOL".

I have been waiting for the 2006 Insight info. to be released to make my mind up but It seems like Honda is going to make my mind up for me with this new 2006 HCH. :) :) :)

So (Resist) and you other owners what do you all think :?: :?: :?: , am I on target or "NOT" :?: :?: :?:

Regards;
Terry :D

Moderators; My mistake posting this topic here. I just saw I think where It should have been under "Insight and Honda News". My mistake; Sorry
Edited for correct posting on 8/26/2005 7:48 PM
 

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I think the new Civic Hybrid has the same mileage as a CVT Insight, with more room. So for me I'm going to get it instead of sticking with my Insight.
 

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I think the new Civic Hybrid has the same mileage as a CVT Insight, with more room. So for me I'm going to get it instead of sticking with my Insight.
"Resist", have you been reading all the info. that is out there on the 2006 HCH ?? It really seems like its going to be the way to go.

There are many many pics. already out there also showing the outside of vehicle as well as the new interior which really looks cool.

Did you know it's going to be available with Nav. if some one wants it??

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Reads like both of you guys are succumbing to the American ideology, "Bigger is better." :oops:

Drive the new Civic Hybrid the same as you would an Insight and your MPG will be less than in an Insight. Sure if you need the space. But ask yourself how often will you have more than 1 other person in the car with you :?:

And how high a price do you think gas will get :!: :twisted: ;)
 

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Insightful Trekker said:
Reads like both of you guys are succumbing to the American ideology, "Bigger is better." :oops:

Drive the new Civic Hybrid the same as you would an Insight and your MPG will be less. Sure if you need the space, but as yourself how often will you have more than 1 other person in the car with you.

And how high a price do you think gas will get :!: :twisted: ;)
John; you are right when you are right. I have only one other person to be concerned with and that be the "Wife-Cathy". I was really hoping that Honda would do some of the HCH upgrades for 2006 to the Insight but I guess thats not going to be the case or it does not seem to be. I still like the Insight and will wait and see both vehicles before I spend my money on either.

Nice hearing from you. :)

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tiger said:
"Resist", have you been reading all the info. that is out there on the 2006 HCH ?? It really seems like its going to be the way to go.
Yes I have. I am with you on this one, I want the new Civic Hybrid.

I've never been happy with the stupid rear wheel skirts on the Insight or the fact that it uses easily dentable aluminum. I understand the purpose, just don't like them. I need a more conventional looking vehicle with similiar fuel mileage as my CVT and I think the new Civic Hybrid is it. And yes I want the NAV system too!
 

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tiger said:
John; you are right when you are right.
She is right when she is right. And we are always wrong when "she" is right. ;)

But we always work out a compromise :)


p.s. this post is in the correct forum. General News is for "news" type items and AFAIK you haven't made any news recently. ;)
 

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Insight Or 2006 HCH ???

:roll: :arrow: :lol: :) John; your so silly and thats why I "Love"posting here with you and others. Thats just to clever; I love it :wink:

Later;

Terry

BTW, Don't discount that 2006 HCH yet, It sounds pretty good: :p :p :p
 

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tiger said:
"Resist", have you been reading all the info. that is out there on the 2006 HCH ?? It really seems like its going to be the way to go.
Yes I have. I am with you on this one, I want the new Civic Hybrid.

I've never been happy with the stupid rear wheel skirts on the Insight or the fact that it uses easily dentable aluminum. I understand the purpose, just don't like them. I need a more conventional looking vehicle with similiar fuel mileage as my CVT and I think the new Civic Hybrid is it. And yes I want the NAV system too!
"Resist" I think you will find the links below very interesting on the 2006 Honda Civics. Let me know what you think :?: :?: :?: These are very Clear Pics: :) :) :)

Regards;
Terry


http://www.8thgencivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95

http://tinypic.com/azax4n.jpg

http://tinypic.com/azaxcg.jpg

http://tinypic.com/azaxj9.jpg
 

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Like John said given the same situations the Insight is going to be more fuel efficient overall, but you have to also consider your comparing a 4th generation IMA to the first generation. Honda is probably already so burried in the Insight and there's really no reason to do anything different to it. It keeps them on the top of the EPA lists so there's no incentive to change anything. I for one am just thrilled they're still keeping it in production.

I will admit that the electric AC would be nice though, and the new Civic does look like quite a nice car.
 

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Just a few thoughts that might help:

First, you probably shouldn't compare the real-world gas mileage of the Insight to the posted EPA estimates of the Civic. Either compare EPA estimates to EPA estimates, or real-world account to real-world accounts. The Civic will be subject to the same physics that lowers gas mileage. For instance, running the AC, making short trips, and driving 75 MPH will significantly lower your mileage. I bet you'll end up the the low 40's quite often. In short, I believe the CVT Insight will continue to beat the Civic gas mileage, especially at higher speeds because it has a lower drag coeficient.

Also, I would recommend driving each one first. I was considering a Civic Hybrid a while back, but after driving one I changed my mind. It's by no means an unpleasant drive. In fact I liked it better than the Prius and many other cars. However, it doesn't have the sporty feel of the Insight. No, the Insight isn't a sports car, but there is something very appealing about the way that it drives compared to the Civic. I also like the looks of the Insight better, but that's totally subjective.

That said, it sounds like the new Civic Hybrid is pretty cool. I didn't realize that it came with navigation and satellite radio. The electric AC sounds nice too. Those are some pretty compelling reasons to get one. If I was still in the market for a car, I would definitely take one for a test drive.

Good luck deciding. Let us know if you get one!
 

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jbrasure said:
I bet you'll end up the the low 40's quite often.
I have seen the civic hybrid pics before. Not sure how someone could say it will be in the low 40's often. When my CVT Insight mileage is listed as 57/56, seems just nearly like the Civic Hybrid's claims.
 

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The aluminum construction, wheel skirts, and funky design are the main reasons I LIKE the Insight. Frankly, you could leave the 150 or so pounds of hybrid stuff out and have a great conventional car.
 

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"I need a more conventional looking vehicle..."

I can't help but wonder: why "need"? I could understand "want", though I myself like the unconventional looks. (If nothing else, I don't have to worry about which of several identical cars in the parking lot is mine :)) But the only reason I can come up with for needing a conventional-looking car is that you're a private eye, and don't want to be conspicuous on those stake-outs :)
 

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I'm still upset Honda will not be bringing the 06 Civic Hatchback to the States.
atlaw4u; you did not say what you think about the 2006 HCH Honda. So; what do you think and are you still looking for a Insight New or Used?

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Dougie said:
The aluminum construction, wheel skirts, and funky design are the main reasons I LIKE the Insight. Frankly, you could leave the 150 or so pounds of hybrid stuff out and have a great conventional car.
Here here! In my eyes the Insight is really a high tech CRX. It makes me happy every time I get in it. I think I'd own one even if it wasn't a hybrid.
 

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The aluminum construction, wheel skirts, and funky design are the main reasons I LIKE the Insight.
To each his own I guess. Sure the Aluminum construction is great, but it also dents easier and is harder to repair. I could live without goofy wheel skirts that many have had fall off and are expensive to replace.
 

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New Honda Civic Hybrid

I guess the pictures posted are from a Honda Civic, although I wonder why the logos are taped out. Is the manufacturer too embarrassed to put their name on it? I like the insight because it is a hatchback. I could do without the aluminum, but I would prefer plastic like the Fiero, Saturn or Smart. Plastic body panels can really drive the cost of body work down...

I went by the local dealer to price extended warranty on my recently purchased insight. I was ignored as usual, did not find one reference to the insight on the wall as in pictures, or in the HONDA awards poster. All kinds of awards for all kinds of HONDAs, but no mention of the Inisght.
Typical Canadian dealer response to the insight. We don't have any Insights, We are not getting any Insights, and we don't want any Insights and we don't want to look for any Insights. We see about one a year in here for service. Kind of hard to sell a product you don't want to sell.


Just my observations after 2 months of trying to buy one in Canada, before buying one in the USA,
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Well the wheel skirts are not cheap but made of plastic. I think the high cost has more to do with the low volume of the car than the material. Have fun, Rick
 
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